Sexless love or loveless sex?

[TeePee4Prez]

     Loveless sex. I'd rather be lonely than driven insane.

Amen, brother!

I'm surprised how many men on this Forum picked Option 1.  Why even deal with females without the sex?  I can name a few exceptions, but for the most part I can't deal with women.  There I said it.  They're caddy, will twist the slightest thing you say against you, sometimes a pain in the ass to deal with in the workplace (few exceptions, of course)... Oh boy, I'm gonna be labeled a mysoginist.

[TeePee4Prez]

     Loveless sex. I'd rather be lonely than driven insane.

Amen, brother!

I'm surprised how many men on this Forum picked Option 1.  Why even deal with females without the sex?  I can name a few exceptions, but for the most part I can't deal with women.  There I said it.  They're caddy, will twist the slightest thing you say against you, sometimes a pain in the ass to deal with in the workplace (few exceptions, of course)... Oh boy, I'm gonna be labeled a mysoginist.

That is a terrible, horrible thing to say. You bet you're a misogynist. People with attitudes like yours give men an awful name.

And I forgot they cost money.

Men who have such soft attitudes will get neither love nor sex.  Ever notice the women with the much bitchier attitudes towards men get more sex?

[TeePee4Prez]

Since it has been several years since I've had either love or sex, I would happily take either option at this point.

Don't sell yourself short man.  Knowing what you want=confidence.  Some people on here are seeking the "true love" and relationship thing.  Whatever floats their boats and they're not f****ts for thinking that way as someone eluded to earlier.  They just have a different point of view which works for some guys.  Just not for me.  Some are hornballs like me and a few others and really don't care to deal with the female sex too much on a non-sexual level.  You have to be comfortable with being single.  If someone comes along I can love, great.  It hasn't happened yet.  I've only told 1 person I loved them after a month of seeing her.  She left me right after and yes we had sex a few times.  I've learned not to get too attached and have almost developed an emotional callous towards women.

[TeePee4Prez]

Why even deal with females without the sex? 

This is why you are single.

Thank you Phil.  I'm proud of it.  It's a shame the rest of society's not quite there yet.  I am not institutionalized and have to listen to a 2nd mother like some of my friends.  To each his own.

[TeePee4Prez]

Supersoulty- question:

If you were talking to a woman at a bar, you have a decent rapport, she's moderately attractive, bought her a drink or two, shared a smoke, etc. and you find out  in the conversation she's a preschool teacher and blurts out "I think kids are soooo cute and I want a baby in the next 2 years."  And you have a shot with love and sex with her fairly quickly.  What would you do?

[TeePee4Prez]

Since it has been several years since I've had either love or sex, I would happily take either option at this point.

Don't sell yourself short man.  Knowing what you want=confidence.  Some people on here are seeking the "true love" and relationship thing.

Yeah, stupid us. Wanting something meaningful and lasting.

Did you read the rest of my post?  I never said you were stupid.  All I suggested to super is that he should know what he wants.

[TeePee4Prez]

Since it has been several years since I've had either love or sex, I would happily take either option at this point.

Don't sell yourself short man.  Knowing what you want=confidence.  Some people on here are seeking the "true love" and relationship thing.

Yeah, stupid us. Wanting something meaningful and lasting.

Did you read the rest of my post?  I never said you were stupid.  All I suggested to super is that he should know what he wants.

I never literally said you called me or anyone else stupid

All I'm saying is it's hard to respect that sort of lack of attachment and affinity for on the fly relationships/flings and one night stands without any sort of emotional attachment whatsoever. Quite frankly I couldn't respect myself if I ever subscribed to that way of thinking.

And in general, the idea that one person couldn't commit yourself to someone you care a great deal about and love just because you wouldn't be able to have sex is absolutely shallow and immature. What if the person you fell in love with is physically incapable of having sex after some sort of accident or traumatic experience? Would you leave them?

For anyone that answers yes: I have some hemlock I'd like you to try.

Some men have different ways of thinking within the realm of heterosexuality.  There are plenty of women that think the way I do as well about men. 

I guess I'm older than you and have had the experience of being burnt so many times not to care so much.  I was more idealisitic about love when I was your age, but a lot of harsh realities have set in for me.  My friend says I have a subconscious tendency to be non-committal when it comes to women who start to have an interest in me.  And at the same time I want and try to lock down in a relationship what I can't have.  Yes, I'll be the 1st to admit I'm a bit of an emotional trainwreck. 

[TeePee4Prez]

Supersoulty- question:

If you were talking to a woman at a bar, you have a decent rapport, she's moderately attractive, bought her a drink or two, shared a smoke, etc. and you find out  in the conversation she's a preschool teacher and blurts out "I think kids are soooo cute and I want a baby in the next 2 years."  And you have a shot with love and sex with her fairly quickly.  What would you do?

... Her place or mine?

The answer I wanted to hear.. RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I posed this as a hypothetical to you because this situation happened to me when I was a Cavanaugh's River Deck about a year or two ago.  Wouldn't have been an easy lay, but in terms of physical attraction.. yeah, I would have had sex with her. 

[TeePee4Prez]

Rin Chan, you would marry someone for sex whom you do not love?  The idea of being married to someone whom you don't love is unappealing to me, unless it is a business arrangement.

I said sexless love!!!!

I would rather marry someone I love and not have sex with them than have sex with someone forever that I don't love!!!

I'm sorry if that came out wrong

Rin-chan

Man, what is wrong with this generation?  Whatever happened to the 60s and free love?

If you're looking for the 5% wholesome Christian type then by all means you're playing it right.  Glad to hear you're not a slut though.. that's worse!  Me and about the oh I don't know 95% of other men want to "try before they buy."  Even my prudish brother who wouldn't let me take him to a strip club on his bachelor party (yes, I know BRTD.  I caught shat from the other guys in the party and asked what was wrong with him.)  knows this.  There has to be a happy medium.  Play hard to get, but too hard could hurt you badly with men.   

[TeePee4Prez]

I must say the question was VERY ambiguous.  Of course I want love.  But I enjoy sex and sometimes going through a lot of motions can be a pain in the ass.