The Spank Poll

[TeePee4Prez]

Knowing how some kids are today, they do need the fear of spanking for major offenses and some of these kids are violent.  I'm not saying abuse, but like dazzleman or J-Mann eluded to earlier is sufficient.  For school purposes, I oppose, BUT there are times that my mom and brother have been threatened and even hit by a kid in my mom's case.  Though I oppose corporal punishment, I feel that such a violent kid should be dealt with as non-violently as possible being that a larger teacher or school police should try to bring the unruly kid to the ground.

[TeePee4Prez]

Knowing how some kids are today, they do need the fear of spanking for major offenses and some of these kids are violent.  I'm not saying abuse, but like dazzleman or J-Mann eluded to earlier is sufficient.  For school purposes, I oppose, BUT there are times that my mom and brother have been threatened and even hit by a kid in my mom's case.  Though I oppose corporal punishment, I feel that such a violent kid should be dealt with as non-violently as possible being that a larger teacher or school police should try to bring the unruly kid to the ground.

Interesting point Flyers.  We hear so much about how wrong it is for teachers to hit kids.  But now we have the kids hitting teachers, and of course, the rights of these kids are paramount.  The teachers often have to deal with those kids being back in their class after a couple of days suspension, which is a total joke and a total affront to the teachers.

Why do the 'students' have all the rights, and the teachers none, in these cases?  I read stories about a couple of teachers who have 'abused' kids in a neighboring, out-of-control urban school district, but nothing about the behavior of the kids.  Rest assured it is not the teachers who are causing all the problems in these schools.

I think the problem with our society is that we only examine a small part of every issue.  Instead of looking at the entire issue of parent and student discipline, and how to best achieve it in the long-term best interests of society and the children, we narrow the focus to a single inane point -- such as 'should we hit?'  We do no analysis of whether or not hitting actually works, or if it does, what will be the cost of discontinuing it, in the form of deteriorating discipline.  We don't ask why a teacher may find it necessary to exert some form of discipline, and we don't honestly look at whether controlled hitting, or the bad effects of the discipline that is lacking when we do nothing but limit disciplinary methods, do more harm.  We simply ask the schools to do more of the parents' jobs for delinquent, lazy and unsupportive parents, and then remove the tools that they have traditionally used to do the job.  It seems that we reduce every issue to some inane small part of the equation that doesn't take the big picture into account, and this is a perfect example of that.

I agree with you there.  Sometimes a kid really does need a whack on the rear end, but it shouldn't be the school that gives it to them.  

[TeePee4Prez]

dazzleman, I haven't heard any stories of teachers being hit by kids, although I'm sure it has happened, but it certainly isn't commonplace.  Also, when this does occur, there is no doubt that the kids are being punished by the school and/or certainly by the law.  It's not like students are just allowed to slap their teachers silly left and right, which is the image you gave in their post.

The punishment for a teacher assaulting a student and a student assaulting a teacher should be pretty much the same, other than of course that students are minors and teachers aren't.  Nobody's claiming that it's a student's right to hit a teacher.

My mother has been hit and quite badly I might add.  Of coruse, I'm not qualified to make an opinion on this, but the student was amply punished and rightfully so.

[TeePee4Prez]

My mother has been hit and quite badly I might add.  Of coruse, I'm not qualified to make an opinion on this, but the student was amply punished and rightfully so.

Adult jail time?

No, explusion.