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TeePee4Prez
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« on: December 11, 2005, 03:18:58 PM »

Pope Benedict XVI has warned against rampant materialism which he said is polluting the spirit of Christmas.

"In today's consumer society, this time of the year unfortunately suffers from a sort of commercial 'pollution' that threatens to alter its real spirit," the Pope told a large crowd gathered in St. Peter's Square to hear his weekly Angelus blessing.

Am I the only person who feels that for the Pope to denounce commercialism from the marble balcony of a gold-domed building, surrounded by jewel-encrusted religious icons, while wearing a giant gold cross, is just a little ironic?  Why does the Vatican need to hoard so much material wealth anyway?

Sorry if this post seems a little rambling, but I'm just curious, and a little perplexed.

I also agree with you on the irony of the matter as well.  I don't mean to make this local, but I find the Catholic colleges/universities in the Philadelphia area have some of the highest tuitions and give the least financial aid.  I find when they preach "social justice" it's a bit ironic.  Before anyone criticizes me I have two siblings the have attended or are attending a Jesuit university (St. Joe's and U of Scranton).  Their student loan debt upon graduation is astronomical compared to mine.  Futhermore the only Catholic college I applied to in 1998 was Villanova and I would have had to pay $6,000 more per year compared to the next best school.  I find it amazing how the Catholic church is the wealthiest corporation in the world even compared to Microsoft yet charges an arm and a leg for tuition.  Now I realize it's due to the lack of vocations, but still one has to wonder where this money is going while a secular school gives better financial aid.     
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2005, 06:22:09 PM »

Flyers, the Vatican does not run Villanova, St. Joes, or most of the Catholic Universities in America.

Anything to bring up local stuff...anything...

Let's hear about the Vatican conspiracy to bring down the Dems, Flyers!

To Joe, the Vatican doesn't need those things but we aren't going to sell off parts of our history. People always say, "Sell the art to pay the teachers more!" Not that easy and not smart at all. Many of the things we see have been donations to the Church and they should stay.

Did I say anything about a Vatican conspiracy?  I also found it amazing that our Archdiocese gave Eastern European churches $100 million back in the early 1990s after the fall of Communism.  Quite amazing considering they don't pay their teachers crap and they have more money than Microsoft.  Interestingly I found this out in one of the first few pages of my Accounting I textbook.  When it comes to Church politics and administration, me and Joe Republic have every right to criticize.
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2005, 11:28:32 PM »

Score one for us Protestants.  Just kidding.
But seriously, Phil (and all the other R.C.'s on this forum), do you believe that in the long run, Vatican II was a mistake?  I've run into an increasing number of Catholics in New York who believe that the Latin Mass should be restored to church services.

Church is out of touch and losing members as is.
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