Re: An update on the life of your in-house Reverend :) 2

[TeePee4Prez]

Dude, this person needs to woman up.  Seriously.  Giving the ring to your parents???  WTF?  That is one of the most juvenile things I've ever heard.  In all honesty dude and I never said this before.  You being with her was extreme charity.  Seriously she looks about 50 with the maturity of a 10 year old.  And not a cougar 50 year old- HORRIBLE!  She couldn't make $100,000 a year and give me "open relationship" rights to marry her.

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So, do you need a second person to go on that non-refundable trip to disney? If so, I'm game.

Would Paradise Island (the adult/drinking place) be too advanced for him?  I can see it now "Oh... goshdarnit.... I... will... have.. a Shirley. no a virgin... oh what the hay A WHITE WINE SPRITZER!."

[TeePee4Prez]

You're mad that she was a conservative Republican? You're more of a Republican than I am for goodness sakes! And most women hate football! This is why we have them to wear sundresses, drink beer and give us snacks while we watch!

This just befuddles me. I will no longer be surprised with this story. I shouldn't be, at least.

With all the sh**t she has and being on the Oklahoma/Fed dime, you'd think otherwise.  Oh well!

And Al, I was trying to make him feel better. Geez!  Us men need to stop empowering these whacko, horrible, and horrible looking women with nothing to offer.  That was my other point.  BushOK obviously has a lot more to offer than his past 3 witches ever did.  He needs us as a support group.  That 3rd party that says "Dude, lay off she's not that into you" or "Dude, she's psycho."  Even I from time to time need it because even I have rose colored goggles when it comes to women.

[TeePee4Prez]

DON'T DO IT!

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Cut her ass off dude!  Focus on Christmas and yes football!  She sounds like more problems than is really worth.  She has too many issues.  Don't even bother with the "commercial", you've already past the ending.

[TeePee4Prez]

As someone who rushed into marriage too quickly and still feels the profound psychological effects of that mistake to this day (and probably always will, given it's gotten worse if anything with time), my advice to you is this: consider the fact that other than having children it is far and away the most important decision you will ever make and will have the most profound effect on your happiness or lack thereof for the rest of your life.

If you have even the tiniest shred of doubt in your mind, you shouldn't do it.

Well, we're going to give it a month, or until about Labor Day, to kind of take a break and assess where we both stand.  If you were to ask me right now, I have no doubts and no reservations.  I'm still going to take advantage of this next month to relax and focus on other things and take a good look at my feelings, my goals, my dreams, and what I want in this marriage.  She's going to do the same.  We will talk to each other on the phone every now and then, but we may not see each other very much.  As of now, my mother is still in possession of the ring and will remain so until Susan and me decide that we want to continue.  Susan told me today that she does want to keep April 9, 2011 intact.

Torie, I read part of the Wikipedia article on bipolar disorder and from what I can tell, she has the lowest level of bipolar (bipolar I).  She does have her mood swings, but they are not as severe as people with bipolar II.  In fact, sometimes I think I have a very mild case of bipolar disorder as I have some extreme mood swings.  The thing with her is she has never been, to my knowledge anyway, suicidal nor does she ever use any illegal substances to calm down.

Cut and run.  Seriously.  She is a head case you don't need.  You have a job, have a house.  She's offering NOTHING to the table.  She sounds like she's taking advantage of your good nature.  As you get older, women will get more desperate and YOU enter the drivers' seat.

[TeePee4Prez]

Jesse,

I’m fine, seriously.  I’ve read every bit of advice given to me on this forum and I have taken it to heart.   I still believe Ameriplan is a legitimate company, but I am looking for another office job to boost my income at least in the short term.  I do not believe that the only legitimate jobs are an 8-hour a day office job with limited advancement or working in the trades.   I am doing what I believe is best for myself and my future family.  Everybody’s path to success in the corporate world is different, and I see no reason why I cannot be successful with Ameriplan and feel good about it at the same time.  I also don’t believe that every MLM business is a scam.  It’s definitely not for everybody, but so far I’m doing pretty well in it, much better and much faster than I ever thought I would at this point.  I’ve already accomplished the necessary tasks to achieve my first promotion, which will boost my pay just a bit.  The thing is right now I am happy with my career choice and I am content with whatever happens with the relationship.  As I said earlier, August has been a really good month for me so far and we’re a quarter of the way through the month.  I’m not trashing the advice I’ve been given on the forum, and in fact I appreciate all the advice, but a man has to make his own mind up and make his own mistakes and own up to the mistakes he’s made.  Sure, I’ve made mistakes especially in the last half of July, but I’m happy with where I’m at and I do sleep well at night.  I do not need a therapist, and again, I feel happy and I feel content.

And again, you ignored the bulk of what I said. What I wrote was NOT an assessment of AmeriPlan alone. It was an assessment of your decision-making skills in general: your rushed engagement, bumbling into ON-Company and abandoning a legitimate job that potentially had a future, having your engagement broken because it was rushed, saying how you'll be better off without your ex-fiancé because she needed to grow up and would be expensive one minute, and the next minute, you're excited because she might be giving you another chance (all of which would have happened during the dating process for most people, so that they didn't blow money on an engagement ring and non-refundable honeymoon tickets).

And just days after your fiancé broke off the engagement by going through your parents, you're still counting down to an artificial date that never should have been set in the first place. If it was "love" and "meant to happen" as you claimed so quickly after your first date, then you wouldn't be going through these sorts of issues that are normally reserved for couples who are in the early phases of dating ... which is realistically where your relationship ought to be.

You can throw around all the "I've got to be a man and make my own mistakes" crap you want, but in order to be a man, you have to grow up. You haven't. You're making idiotic mistakes repeatedly, bumbling in on faith and completely blind to the realities around you. I believe I even predicted your "I'm OK" response, which in and of itself is a sign that you're not OK.

Jeff, you're 28 years old. "Success" in a career is variable, but at this point, you owe it to yourself and to those around you to be stable. You're not. Your sole source of income is an MLM of debatable legitimacy, which was your backup plan after nearly falling victim to an internet fraud / money-laundering scheme, and you're on your third failed engagement in as many years. Something is wrong with that picture.

Feeling "happy and content" with your life in the shambles that it is can only be a sign that you honestly need therapy. It's not that you should feel miserable, but you're ignoring the seriousness and desperation of your situation ... and those of us that believe you're telling the truth and have some measure of sympathy for you are concerned -- and rightfully so -- that you're going to keep on repeating this same pattern.

A lot of financial type jobs are what you make of it.  For instance, I was offered the possibility of becoming a Financial Planner with MetLife, but decided against it.  Sure, I could have made 100s of thousands of dollars legitimately.  I could have also been broke off my ass too and eventually stuck with the miserable CPA firm I was at for stability.  Well, I lost that job too and am now back with the Feds.  With this current economy, stability is a 5 cent word.  What is it and is ANYTHING stable?  It seems almost 95% of workers in our economy are expendable.  I do think we need stronger labor laws to prevent many arbitrary and unnecessary firings/layoffs that IMO are placing a tremendous burden on the economy. 

[TeePee4Prez]

She just wants to take it easy for a month or two while pushing the wedding talk to the side and just get to know me better.

As everyone here has been telling you, "getting to know you better" is something that's supposed to happen before you get engaged.  Again, why don't you just try dating without the engagement, and not worry about marriage until after you already know each other well enough that there won't be any more "surprises" like this one?

That's kind of what we plan on doing.  April 9 is now just a target date that can easily be pushed back with just a phone call.

Here's what your next phone call should be:

EDIT

[TeePee4Prez]

And FTR, my dating life is absolutely atrocious right now, but I FAR from envy Bushie here.  Difference is I actually want my potential dates to have some physical attraction, career ambition and having the maturity greater than a 10 year old all of which Susan is clearly lacking.  Bushie, you need to be pickier.  Women have been rolling all over you since I've know you on here.  We all can see it.  Susan is a leech.  She is testing you to see how much of a tool you are.  Nothing wrong with being good natured, but it's time to say adios.  I recommend you watch "She's Outta My League."  It will give you some inspiration.  You know what you want and need- ACT ON IT!

You have the potential to date attractive, educated women.  If I do, you do!  Sure, I've never closed the deal with any.  But they at one point in my life a few have shown interest and have even got intimate with me.  What makes me think I can't repeat it and next time close the deal for once? 

[TeePee4Prez]

You have the potential to date attractive, educated women.  If I do, you do!  Sure, I've never closed the deal with any.  But they at one point in my life a few have shown interest and have even got intimate with me.  What makes me think I can't repeat it and next time close the deal for once? 

Jeff, save yourself the trouble and just switch teams. Men are easier to understand. You'll no doubt be able to find some cute little twinkie that'd be into you!

Gay men like thin, in shape men.  Hard for him to do considering BushOK likes football over mimosas as well.  Women are easier being a heavier guy than switching teams.

[TeePee4Prez]

We need a thread to predict when the next engagement will be.

Oh and Bushie, will you ever just answer yes or no to the question -  Has it cost you money personally to be part of Ameriplan?

Answering yes or no won't violate the ToS.

BushOK's next engagement: 10/27/2010.  Take yer bets!

[TeePee4Prez]

11/01/2010.

This isn't Price Is Right.  U know I picked 10/27/2010, right?

[TeePee4Prez]

Why do you oppose it? You're a parent, as your daughter gets older and starts dealing with other kids, wouldn't you want to know the most you can about what she's going through and how you can best help her and reach her in a way she'll listen to? (Not saying your daughter has Asperger's, just describing the value of understanding why kids behave the way they do rather than just saying it's all normal one way or the other.)

My point, badly worded, was that I believe these things are over diagnosed these days. I don't disagree with you that such disorders exist my point is that doctors push these things as the answer to much and some have ulterior motives (drugs).

The kids I counselled and taught in Philadelphia three years ago who had Aspergers were definite cases of it.  I agree there can be an over-diagnosis, but that shouldn't discount the validity of the genuine cases of Aspergers.  Same goes with ADD/ADHD.

You.  Counseled.  Another.  Person?

WOW!

[TeePee4Prez]

Came to a revelation:  I need Keystone Phil back calling me a "partisan hack" again  BADLY!  I've posted in this crappy thread too much.  I need to think of politics in here, not a continuous soap opera of some helpless doofus from Oklahoma getting shot down and screwed over by hideous looking women.

PA-13 is dead, but there's the Governor, Senate, and PA 7/8 that me a KP would surely go back and forth on.

[TeePee4Prez]

Came to a revelation:  I need Keystone Phil back calling me a "partisan hack" again  BADLY!  I've posted in this crappy thread too much.  I need to think of politics in here, not a continuous soap opera of some helpless doofus from Oklahoma getting shot down and screwed over by hideous looking women.

PA-13 is dead, but there's the Governor, Senate, and PA 7/8 that me a KP would surely go back and forth on.

OK, I'll try to bring you back to PA politics. Santorum has had 5 recent visits to Iowa, where he is attempting to spread Santorum all over the state. I hear that it's a good fertilizer.

I also hear if it had a taste, it would be salty.

Thanks guys!

[TeePee4Prez]

Good luck with the job, I'm glad to see things coming together.

Agreed.

Is your fiance' still in the hospital?

No' she's home recovering.

Thanks guys for the wishes.

You shouldn't know that.  DUMP HER NOW!

[TeePee4Prez]

I'd suggest all you guys in awe of cheap real estate take a look at my hometown. This house about a block from me will set you back about 100k


If you're willing to live further out, near the interstate and the enormous Wolfchase Galleria mall, you can get this house with over 2,000 sq ft for $115k. You could probably even bargain lower.

The bottom home would cost 400-500K in the Pennsylvania suburbs of Philadelphia and about 250-350K in South Jersey, but the latter has higher property taxes.

[TeePee4Prez]

I'd suggest all you guys in awe of cheap real estate take a look at my hometown. This house about a block from me will set you back about 100k


If you're willing to live further out, near the interstate and the enormous Wolfchase Galleria mall, you can get this house with over 2,000 sq ft for $115k. You could probably even bargain lower.

The bottom home would cost 400-500K in the Pennsylvania suburbs of Philadelphia and about 250-350K in South Jersey, but the latter has higher property taxes.

I didn't know PA was that much pricier than NJ. My freshman roomate at college was from Cherry Hill, and the impression I got was that that area was pretty snooty.

Only the PA suburbs of Philly, not outside that area in PA is expensive.  The Lehigh Valley can be pricey as well.  Southern NJ is cheaper than outer Southeastern PA because NJ has a bad stigma associated with it due to high property taxes.  Granted you will still have pricey parts of Cherry Hill and Moorestown, NJ, but for the most part South NJ is cheaper than SE Penn.

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I didn't know PA was that much pricier than NJ. My freshman roomate at college was from Cherry Hill, and the impression I got was that that area was pretty snooty.

Western PA has one of the most reasonably priced housing markets around.

And I can afford a 4 BR with a few acres in parts of PA even on my measely salary.  I agree Western, Central, and Northeastern PA have very reasonably priced housing markets.  It's the Lehigh Valley and the Southeast that need to come back down to earth.

[TeePee4Prez]

...the type of jobs and pay scales are a bit different, but the amount of interviews he is getting seems a bit odd.

Yes I find his ability to get interviewed very quickly to be the dead giveaway that his story is false.  I think if you apply for jobs, drop off resumes, etc., it will usually take at least a few weeks and often a few months before anything happens in response such as a call in for an interview (I can't say for sure as I have never done such things, but I would guess).

I also agree that the pay scales he mentions seem very high for Oklahoma.. I find it hard to believe that there are many jobs there paying above minimum wage, and those that are would presumably have hundred and hundreds of applicants, so again the callbacks seem very unlikely.

I don't believe it either.  I know myself I was in a high average demand field of Accounting, relatively speaking, and I didn't get interviews this easy.

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I still think government work is the best thing to do here Bushie.  Telemarketing isn't steady employment.  Nobody buys sh**t off the phone anymore.  Internet has it beat.

Agreed.  Even though a lot of it is mindless, it's the best thing going right now other than nursing/medical fields.  The Feds are probably the best bet now and for the next 2-3 years.  

[TeePee4Prez]

For some reason, I have a very good feeling about this week.  I've got a good feeling that something good is going to happen in the way of employment.

Did God tell you this?

No, but he's given me the peace I need and the financial wherewithal.

So God now pays you money? Sweet deal!

I have a money tree right outside!  God provided it.

[TeePee4Prez]

Smash, I applied to this job and they conducted two interviews and hired me.  I'm not too worried by it.

Oh, and by the way, guys, it is official - the wedding is offically off now.  I called her to see how she was doing and she broke up with me.  Oh well.  I'm not torn up about it, because I've been kind of preparing myself for it and was probably going to end up doing it anyway, but at least I wasn't kept hanging.

Umm, you were supposed to dump her.

Artist's rendition of BushOklahoma's relationship with Susan (or anybody else for that matter).

Cute.  But accurate.  Sorry to hear that Bushie.  

Now this time be PICKIER, not settling for nonsense.  You will come out of this better.  Susan will be an old maid, no man, no sex, living with her parents till death.  

FTR, I've been just as much an ass with friends' exes.  One of my best friends, not to be gay, is a good looking guy and his first girl was a beast and treated him like crap.  She weighed 90 lbs., had very short hair and no boobs.  Looked very butchy.  He thought she was the hottest thing and she even had the nerve to cheat on him.  I thought she looked like a boy, but she was older than him ironically.  Once he got dumped and depressed over her, I told him she looks like a 12 year old boy, and now he's with a FAR hotter woman. 

[TeePee4Prez]

i wonder if bushie is kicking himself for leaving a good, steady, respectable job at the gas company?

sadly, he probably isnt...

Actually, I am.

And focusing on Christmas.

Anyway, on a more positive topic, and with Susan out of the picture, we can now discuss this....

[TeePee4Prez]

According to RR Bushie and this new girl may be going on a date.

So, when the engagement?

Over/Under: 1.5 months!

[TeePee4Prez]

BTW if this is a real check and it's that long to include references, they probably won't like what they find out with Oklahoma Natural Gas.

I don't know, I was a really good employee for ONG and did give a little notice before I bailed on them.  I don't think that will be that big of a stain.  I'm confident about this.  The reason for the October 11 or 25 start date is that's when their next classes are getting started.  Sure, I would love to start this Monday, but as long as I have a job and I'm not having to wait until the first of the year, I'll be fine.  I've got the funds to last me another 4-6 weeks until my first paycheck rolls in.  No worries here in Midwest City, Oklahoma.

Oh, and Smash and Mitty, this is the real deal, this is Sprint Communications.  It's not a subx4 contractor, it is the actual Sprint/Nextel Wireless Company in the Tech Support (Call Center) department, with an actual hourly wage, which is no lower than $11.92.  It could be higher, but that is the minimum.

The only thing that will trump Sprint is if Tinker AFB comes calling.  I did apply for two other positions with Tinker to replace the Veterans requirement.

Not to mention, I have Sprint cell phone service, and I would get that free by working with them.  That is an extra $80 a month.

I was actually at an orientation thing with people from Tinker AFB.  It would be awesome if you'd get that job.  Would it be a GS 7 starting pay?  In Oklahoma, even a GS-7 is great money.  Here it's crapola, but would probably be a major upgrade from ONG.