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« on: July 11, 2010, 06:47:02 PM »


Health care lawsuits, going after people for expressing their 1st Amendment Rights, Oh we have a winner here.  Another X-Mas present for Dan Onorato:


 Posted on Sat, Jul. 10, 2010


Corbett says some would rather get unemployment checks than work

By Amy Worden

Inquirer Harrisburg Bureau

HARRISBURG - Republican gubernatorial candidate Tom Corbett on Friday accused some jobless Pennsylvanians of choosing to collect unemployment checks rather than going back to work, prompting swift criticism from his Democratic opponent and one of the state's top labor leaders.

"The jobs are there. But if we keep extending unemployment, people are just going to sit there," Corbett told Harrisburg radio station WITF at a campaign stop in Elizabethtown. "I've literally had construction companies tell me, 'I can't get people to come back to work until . . . they say, "I'll come back to work when unemployment runs out." ' "

Democratic candidate Dan Onorato charged Corbett with being out of touch at a time when Pennsylvania's unemployment rate is at 9.1 percent, a 26-year high.

"I don't know what world Tom Corbett is living in," Onorato said in a statement. "Our economy is struggling, families in Pennsylvania are hurting, and Harrisburg insiders like Tom Corbett aren't doing anything to help them."

AFL-CIO president Richard Bloomingdale told the Associated Press that he was astonished by Corbett's remarks.

"Unemployed workers would rather be working, feeding their families, and paying the mortgage than living with the uncertainty of not having a job, earning less than half their wages, and going without health care and pensions," Bloomingdale said.

He said more than 25,000 people are jobless in Lancaster County, in which Elizabethtown is located.

Corbett's spokesman, Kevin Harley, said later the owner of a plumbing company, whose name he did not know, told Corbett he had workers who did not want to return until their unemployment ran out. He said other employers had told Corbett they have jobs available and cannot find people to fill them.


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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2010, 01:36:03 AM »

I just hope the Democrats can effectively use this against Corbett.  I think this could be the upset of 2010 in the Gubernatorial races.  PA is a labor state and along with his other antics such as the Twitter subpoenas and the dumb health care lawsuit in a heavy union state might not go over so well.  Dan Onorato has a large warchest to call Corbett on this. 
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2010, 10:16:42 PM »

What did he say that wasn't true? I'm sure there are plenty of people that would rather just collect unemployment than get a real job.

Right.  I was on it for 13 months.  Jackass.
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2010, 08:54:13 PM »

What did he say that wasn't true? I'm sure there are plenty of people that would rather just collect unemployment than get a real job.

Right.  I was on it for 13 months.  Jackass.

Case and point.

Get a job!

I have a job now, but I'm not going to be a harsh ass over it and tell people they're lazy either.  This economy has left some very bright, ambitious people collecting for an extended period of time through no fault of their own.  If we were dealing with a late 1990s economy, then I'd be inclined to think that way somewhat, but in these times it's not the case. 
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2010, 01:52:42 PM »

There are some people out there that say, "Why should I take this lesser job, when I can sit back and collect a check for doing nothing,"  or "Why should I work as a janitor; I have a college degree.  I'd rather just sit back and get a check and, maybe, look for a better job."

A lot of people see that, and Corbett's comments can resonate with them.  I stopped telling people I was a welfare caseworker, because so many people would immediately ask why people should get welfare.  They were, generally, either talking about their neighbors, or their brother-in-law.  It is the same situation.

Onorate's response was so weak, and there is a good counter argument to Corbett, that it was a wash.

I'm not a fan Corbett.  I "pal around" with someone, a public official, who called him "a gutless coward," in print.  I called a candidate he was strongly supporting (and possibly wanted to succeed him), “disingenuous,” a "failure," called that candidates policies an "act of ... hypocrisy," all in print.

All that said, I doubt that this comment is very damaging, Onorato didn't exploit it well, and even feel some of the sentiment Bullmoose does.

Part of the point of unemployment is to prevent people from having to leave their career field to take other jobs out of desperation.  It does the economy little good in general having someone with a Masters degree being a janitor.  The problem we have now is we need to stop our current race to the bottom.  I'm sorry, I'm not putting on my running shoes and any politician that thinks I should will not get my vote Dem or GOP. 
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2010, 07:35:15 PM »


Part of the point of unemployment is to prevent people from having to leave their career field to take other jobs out of desperation.  It does the economy little good in general having someone with a Masters degree being a janitor.  The problem we have now is we need to stop our current race to the bottom.  I'm sorry, I'm not putting on my running shoes and any politician that thinks I should will not get my vote Dem or GOP. 

And that is why Corbett's is running 6-10 points ahead.

No because people think he's prosecutor extraordinare and Onorato isn't that well known yet.  Wait till the ads come out.  I'm calling this as a sleeper for Onorato.
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2010, 11:59:27 PM »

The attitude from a couple of posters in this thread about how people should just "go get a job" is hilariously naive and frightening in how widespread such a stupid sentiment is.

No, but there is a mindset in PA like that.

Here is a letter to the Centre County PA paper:  http://www.centredaily.com/2010/07/17/2098858/unemployment-system-needs-work.html?pageNum=1&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

It was posted after I commented on this thread.

A lot of the comments on it are like that.

Gee, I read the Inquirer's article and most of those posters were grilling Corbett for his assinine comments.  With PA's unemployment @ 9.4% reported and about 20% actual, I don't think Corbett's reasonating with people.  He made a gaffe and if Onorato exploits this correctly, and he still can, he will definitely come from behind. 
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2010, 07:15:14 PM »
« Edited: July 24, 2010, 07:17:51 PM by ICE HOCKEY »

The attitude from a couple of posters in this thread about how people should just "go get a job" is hilariously naive and frightening in how widespread such a stupid sentiment is.

No, but there is a mindset in PA like that.

Here is a letter to the Centre County PA paper:  http://www.centredaily.com/2010/07/17/2098858/unemployment-system-needs-work.html?pageNum=1&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

It was posted after I commented on this thread.

A lot of the comments on it are like that.

Gee, I read the Inquirer's article and most of those posters were grilling Corbett for his assinine comments.  With PA's unemployment @ 9.4% reported and about 20% actual, I don't think Corbett's reasonating with people.  He made a gaffe and if Onorato exploits this correctly, and he still can, he will definitely come from behind.  

If Philadelphia was whole (as opposed the hole) of Pennsylvania, it would.  Tom Corbett, Space Cadet, is tapping into the dissatisfaction a lot of folks are feeling.

I don't know.  There are a lot of unemployed in the Philadelphia suburbs.  The Lehigh and Lackawanna Valleys in NE Pennsylvania are getting absolutely hammered.  I fail to see who he's "reasonating" with.  If Corbett struggles in these areas, which I think he eventually will, he's going to have major issues.  This state did not vote for Obama by 11 for no reason.  This is my sleeper pick and I'm sticking to it.  I've been at job fairs with unemployed West Point grads with Wharton MBAs and CPAs with JD/LLMs in Taxation to boot.  And it's beyond just the ghettos of inner city Philadelphia. 
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