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DL
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« on: September 23, 2021, 01:24:59 PM »

If you voted or had a vote in Tom Mulcair's leadership review, did you vote in favor of Mulcair or against?


I voted to get rid of Mulcair in 2016 and I am not at all from the left of the NDP. There is a myth that Mulcair was dumped for ideological reasons because the left of the party didn't approve of his centrist position. That is part of the story, but only part. The thing about Mulcair is that there was something about him to dislike no matter what faction of the NDP you came from. Leftists didn't like how he was obsessed with balancing the budget and praised Margaret Thatcher. More pragmatic New Democrats from Alberta dropped him like a hot potato after he said on the eve of that convention that he would be willing to "leave all Alberta's oil in the ground". More moderate, pragmatic NDPers from the rest of the country were nauseated by his utter incompetence, poor execution and how he constantly went off message and misread the mood of the country.

On top of that, we cannot ignore personal issues. Almost everyone in the NDP likes Jagmeet Singh personally and he seems to build a lot of personal loyalty among staff and caucus. Mulcair by all accounts was a total asshole and was notorious for having temper tantrums and hurling computer monitors at staff. No one liked the guy at all on a personal level and that makes a big difference when you need people to work to help you survive a leadership challenge.

Even after all those factors, I was open to giving Mulcair another chance because replacing a leader is an expensive hassle. But rather than acknowledging that mistakes were made in the 2015 campaign and pledging to do better - Mulcair was chippy and defensive and refused to acknowledge that anything had to be changed. Then he gave this dreadful speech to the convention that was just a rehash of his stump speech from the election campaign. Totally the wrong speech to give to this audience. That sealed it for me. I decided "this dog cannot hunt"
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DL
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2021, 10:00:10 AM »

I remember Andrew Ference spoke at the 2009 NDP convention.

Not many athletes are New Democrats, alas. Most amateur athletes run for the Liberals, though more "western" sports like football and curling skew more conservative.

These are from another era, but Bruce Kidd who was an track and field Olympian once upon a time ran for the NDP once and has always been supportive and I seem to recall Eric Nesterenko who was a hockey star in the 1960s campaigned with Tommy Douglas in Manitoba.

Didn't the NDP run a candidate this election in Levis, QC who had been a Olympic medallist?   
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