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mileslunn
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« on: November 18, 2012, 10:18:35 PM »

Vermont is the whitest state in the union, one of the least urbanized yet it is the bluest of the lower 48 excluding DC.  Why is this?  I understand why it would go Democrat but the size of the margin seems quite big and it is not as though it is a poor state either.  In Britain and Canada the areas that go heavily for parties on the left that are overwhelmingly white and rural tend to be quite poor, not near or above the national average income.  If it were like Maine or New Hampshire where the GOP gets over 40% that would at least make some sense.  And also Vermont used to be one of the safest GOP states so is it more of anti-Southern state, otherwise it goes against whichever party dominates the South.
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mileslunn
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2012, 12:08:44 AM »

I doubt it has anything to do with the South.  Vermont is a state that favors small businesses (the only large employer I can think of is IBM in Burlington; I assume that Ben&Jerry is also a large employer but they're a local company).  Places where small businesses can flourish seem to be more liberal because they have more of a personality (as opposed to places where everyone shops at Walmart and eats at MacDonalds). 

It's also a very liberal place culturally, with artist-colonies and many neo-hippies, who enjoy their weed in public.  It's also quite secular and I think proximity to Quebec has played a role in their acceptance of different cultures (you can for example listen to Quebec radio stations in Vermont).

I don't think Vermont is as liberal as many believe it is, but I guess in national elections people realize how far to the right the GOP is.

I would have thought small business owners would be more likely to support the GOP as generally excessive regulation and high taxes hurts them more due to low profit, although I do see the lack of some multinationals may be more a reflection of the liberal attitude rather than what creates it.  The Quebec proximity is an interesting one, certainly in New York the areas near the Quebec border are more Democrat, but you don't see that in New Hampshire or Maine, in fact in Maine the areas near the Quebec border are more competitive then areas further south.  Likewise Democrat support is pretty solid even in the southern sections.

It is odd though that Vermont is the whitest state and Obama's second best if you exclude DC which is kind of ironic as white voters are who he did worst amongst.  And the fact it votes GOP at state or local levels albeit more moderate ones is also a sign of the GOP's rightward drift nationally hurting them here.
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mileslunn
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2012, 07:52:05 PM »

Have the Republicans ever done worse than this?  Considering this state went Republican in all but one election from 1857-1992, I suspect this is the worse they have ever done.  Mind you in West Virginia, it is probably the only time the GOP has swept the state as I believe the Democrats have always won at least one county there.  If you look on a municipal basis, Romney may have won at least one municipality in every state as he won several in Massachusetts, won Scutiate in Rhode Island and probably won the island of Niihau in Hawaii.
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