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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
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« on: September 08, 2004, 02:04:01 PM »

Afghanistan, the other war on terror.
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: 0.13, S: -1.23

« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2004, 05:24:16 PM »


Very smart response! I tip my hat to you sir. I liked that.

My line was tongue in cheek, a slight against all the people who forgot about Afghanistan while getting al heated up about Iraq.  It is also a play on words of an American TV ad that advertises prok as "the other white meat."
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,270


Political Matrix
E: 0.13, S: -1.23

« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2004, 02:24:18 AM »

Supported it, but not satisfied on how it is going。 And why did the White House plan the war before 911? I read it on the BBC。

Ever since von moltke, western countries have pre-planned all operations they forsee as possibilities.

Obviously, it was in fact possible the US would wind up fighting a war in Afghanistan, so what's the big deal?
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,270


Political Matrix
E: 0.13, S: -1.23

« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2004, 11:29:02 PM »

Against it.

It was a war to secure the pipeline to the Central Asian oil and natural gas.  Nothing more.  UBL had nothing to do with 9/11.  I have seen no proof of his involvement, and if I were shown something, I would have to peruse it in detail and with ultimate skepticism.

Nothing the government has presented has been credible to link UBL or the Taliban with 9/11.  This was a war for profit.  If you want to get all righteous and humanitarian, go invade a country with no strategic importance.  Why can't we go back to invading places like Grenada?  That was a fine little war.  This quagmire sh** sucks.

freedomburns

So where's the pipeline?
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,270


Political Matrix
E: 0.13, S: -1.23

« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2004, 01:30:03 AM »

And in 1999, the pipeline was cancelled. Tongue

There are indeed oodles of info out there.
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,270


Political Matrix
E: 0.13, S: -1.23

« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2004, 02:52:41 AM »

That pipeline might still get built.  I find it hard to believe that the oil companies will abandon their $40 billion investment in the region.  How do you know that plans are not afoot to build it?  Do you have a source to cite that says they have totally abandoned the project?  I await your proof of this.

freedomburns

They've had three years.  They already have a pipeline project going west, through the Caspian Mountains.

I don't have a source, but neither do you.  My view is that I don't need one, since a) I'm not trying to prove something that isn't already conventionally accepted, and b) They had plenty of chances to rebuild the pipeline and they didn't, leaving speculation of the future actions of these companies less than speculative.

Good to see you back, btw, where have you been?
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