Gitmo abuses confirmed

[The Duke]

jfern leavews out the fact that the abusers were disciplined, just as the Abu Ghraib abusers were.

[The Duke]

It's OK for Muslims to wantonly murder thousands of innocent people, destroy monuments to other religions, and express the most vile forms of racial hatred toward practitioners of other religions, particularly Jews.

Ah, yet another strawman. Who here said that was perfectly OK? Show me exact quotes and not just blind claims that's what liberals believe.

And this is from someone who doesn't even give a f**ck about the Koran.

Tally up the front page stories in the NYT about Gitmo then tally up the number of stories about the destruction of the Buddhist statues in Afghanistan by the Taliban.  Take a guess which got more coverage.

[The Duke]

It's OK for Muslims to wantonly murder thousands of innocent people, destroy monuments to other religions, and express the most vile forms of racial hatred toward practitioners of other religions, particularly Jews.

Ah, yet another strawman. Who here said that was perfectly OK? Show me exact quotes and not just blind claims that's what liberals believe.

And this is from someone who doesn't even give a f**ck about the Koran.

Tally up the front page stories in the NYT about Gitmo then tally up the number of stories about the destruction of the Buddhist statues in Afghanistan by the Taliban.  Take a guess which got more coverage.

Oh, oh pick me, pick me.

My guess would be the one that American Forces were involved in, because the NYT though that maybe (just maybe) Americans would be more interested in buying newspapers with stories about Americans in them as opposed to the Taliban at a time in which very few people knew who the Taliban were. Does that make their choice right - no. Does it make it wrong - no. Does it make it Liberal - no. Does it make it conservative - no. Does it make for selling more newspapers - yes, which does, in an odd sort of way - make it a more conservative choice.

We had 40 consecutive days with Abu Ghraib on the front page of the NYT.  How many consecutive days were the USS Cole and Khobar Towers bombings on the front page?  The Cole and Khobar obviously affected Americans, as mnay were killed in these attacks.

[The Duke]

My initial question was not what is most relevant.  It was the fact I attempted to demonstrate with that question that matters.  That fact is that certain people care when Americans abuse Muslims, but don't care when Muslims abuse other groups.

That fact is shown to be true by the disparity in coverage between the Muslim abuses of Buddhists and the American (much more minor) abuses of Muslims at Gitmo.

You declared my comparison invalid, as the abuses of Buddhists did not affect Americans.  So I found you an example of an abuse of Americans.  Even though the abuses by Americans were very minor (abuses of a mere book) and the abuses by Muslims were very major (killing hundreds of people) there was still more coverage of the abuses by Americans.

[The Duke]

So I found you a story of Muslims killing Americans that STILL leaves your whole argument invalidated.

Once I bring up Khobar, its no longer an issue of representing or not representing something Americans find relevant.  And given the most recent circulation numbers, if the #1 concern of the NYT is to sell newspapers, tey're coming up shorter and shorter each quarter.