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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,200
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Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

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« Reply #50 on: October 04, 2011, 08:45:52 PM »

Anyone else bothered by a large NDP majority on a minority of the popular vote?
It's happened lots before in lots of places in canada.

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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

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« Reply #51 on: October 04, 2011, 08:54:51 PM »

The CBC just called it for the NDP.
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

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« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2011, 09:23:41 PM »

Gerrard hints that he will quit as Liberal leader, but stay as MLA
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

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« Reply #53 on: October 04, 2011, 10:24:15 PM »

McFadyen is stepping down.

Too bad nobody could hear his speech. Selinger decided to start as to interrupt McFadyen. You can't tell me that was not intentional.
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

WWW
« Reply #54 on: October 04, 2011, 10:57:25 PM »

How are the elections resolved in case of a tie?  I mean, w/ 3 polls to go in St. Norbert, PC is ahead by 7 votes Smiley

According to the Compendium produced by Elections Canada (a wonderful document, explaining electoral laws of each province in a simple way), Manitoba holds a by-election. (some provinces are doing a draw and some ask to the returning officer to choose who is elected.)

Link?

I remember some provinces hold by-elections, some take a name out of a hat, some flip a coin, and IIRC, Nova Scotia has the CRO cast the ballot, or, at least, did.
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

WWW
« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2011, 12:02:22 AM »

Some other FAQcts

Redistribution:

Canada, ON = after every full census
NL, NS, MB, SK = after every 10 years (basically, the same as above)
PEI = after every 3rd election
AB, BC, QC, YK = after every second election
NB = whenever they feel like it


Saskatchewan is the only place where British subjects can vote, and even then, you must have been able to do so in 1971.

Federal polling divisions must have at least 250 electors, but there is no upper limit. Other provinces generally follow that rule, but many more have upper limits and no lower limit.

Time Limits for election in days, Minimum - Maximum
Canada - 36 - N/A
NL - 21 - 30
PE - 26 - 32
NS - 30 - N/A
NB - 28 - 38
ON - 28 - 28
MB - 28 - 39
SK - 38 - 34
AB - 28 - 28
BC - 28 - 28
YK - 31 - N/A

Everywhere gets between 1 and 4 hours to go out and vote

Some interesting facts. In Nova Scotia you don't need to be an "Ordinary Resident" to run. So all you weirdos, sign up there! In NL, PE, NS, ON, and AB, you can run even if you are an MP. If you can an inmate you can inr in NL, PE, NS, NB, ON, BC, and YK.

Parties:

Federal
250 members, and 1 candidate
Commentary: open

NL
1000 members and 12 candidates
VERY restrictive. Prohibits the Labrador Party

PE
.35% of eligible voters (about 350 voters) and 10 candidates
When I was in the PEI NDP we struggled to maintain 350 members.


NS
250 members, with 25 members in at least 10 different ridings
Cape Breton "just happens to have 9 ridings

NB
10 candidates
Odd, but works for me.

QC
100 members
Very open

ON
1000 members, 2 candidates
Seems reasonable

MB
2500 members, 5 candidates
a bit restrictive

SK
2500 members, 100 people in 10 different ridings, 2 candidates
Restrictive

AB
.3% of voters as members (about 8k) candidates in 50%+1 of ridings (44)
Somewhat restrictive

BC
2 candidates
Laughably easy


more to come
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

WWW
« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2011, 12:32:30 AM »

Reimbursements
CANADA
Party: 50% of your money back if you get 2% of the vote, or, 5% in your ridings.
Candidate: Something confusing based on 10% of the vote

NEWFOUNDLAND
Candidate: 15% of the vote = 1/3rd of your money back

PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND
Candidate: 15% of the vote. Between $1500 or $3000 back.

NOVA SCOTIA
Candidate: 10%. 25 cents per elector

NEW BRUNSWICK
Candidate: 15%. 35 cents per elector. Or, something based on mailing an ounce to everyone.

QUEBEC
Party: 1% of the vote, get half your money back, up to 60 cents per person.
Candidate: 15%, half your money back, up to a dollar (per elector)

ONTARIO
Party: 15% (per ridings) 5 cents
Candidate: 15%, 20% back

MANITOBA
Party: 10%, 50%
Candidate: 10%, 50%

SASKATCHEWAN
Party: 15%, 50%
Candidate: 15%, 60%



Allowances
Manitoba
$1.25 X number of votes, up to $25,000. Minimum of $10,000 to anyone with a seat, and, $600 for every party.

Quebec
50 cents per voter times your share of vote.

New Brunswick
If you ran 10 candidates, you get a share of money, equal to your vote. The total money is unlisted.

Nova Scotia
$1.50 for each vote (non-annual?)

Prince Edward Island
Anything up to $2 per voter. Currently set a $0





You can give to parties out-of-province except for Quebec, Manitoba, and Alberta, as well as Saskatchewan, but you have to be Canadian for the latter.

Donations from Corps and Unions are banned in Manitoba, Nova Scotia, and Quebec.

Some places have limits on donations.
NB = 6K, QC = 3K, ON = 7.5K, MB = 3K, AB = 15K,



Polls
Alberta and Federal polls must state all the deets, as well, no new polls in the last 24 hours. The latter has a similar equal in Ontario and BC.




Alberta and Saskatchewan have election laws for Senators.




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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

WWW
« Reply #57 on: October 05, 2011, 04:23:52 AM »

Provincial and Federal politics are very different. Provincially I support big government, federally, small government. I am not alone in having different views on different levels. One thing is foreign affairs, plays a bigger role in pretty much every non-USA country. (We need to figure out how we want to relate to YOU guys, while you guys don't) Another thing is that federal-provincial relations is always an issue, and lastly, because we have more than 2 parties, different things matter at different times. IE the current two largest federal parties =/= the two largest provincial parties. Quebec is an excellent example where the two largest provincial parties are the third and fourth parties Federally.

The sort answer is Federal Liberals vote NDP in Manitoba. Some even campaigned for them.
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

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« Reply #58 on: October 06, 2011, 01:34:35 AM »

Find the creator.
Invite him here.
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

WWW
« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2011, 12:31:21 PM »

Everyone underperforms compared to Blaikie.
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

WWW
« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2011, 08:41:49 AM »

That's
54% PC
33% NDP
13% Lib

Same as last time
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

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« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2011, 09:00:50 AM »

Signal Hill
St. John's Centre
Placentia
Labrador West

These are the only 4 ridings that consistently come up NDP
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

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« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2011, 03:20:47 PM »

Signal Hill
St. John's Centre
Placentia
Labrador West

These are the only 4 ridings that consistently come up NDP
Burin?
Yes, you are right. 5 seats.
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

WWW
« Reply #63 on: October 11, 2011, 03:27:53 PM »

Polls close at 6:30? Damn, I'm probably gonna be out then. Sad I hope I don't miss it all. As for Saskatchewan, that's gonna be a snooze. The NDP need to dump Lingenfelter first of all, and hope that they have a strong leader when Wall retires. Which can be in a long time.

I used to talk to his son online, he took part in that political sim that I played, but he "mysteriously vanished" a few weeks after his father won the leadership. We suspected the NDP told him to shut up and go away as to not embarrass his father. Either that or the dude was a liar and didn't want to be caught.
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

WWW
« Reply #64 on: October 11, 2011, 04:09:27 PM »

Polls close at 6pm eastern in NL.

How fast do you think the call will be made?

My bet = 6:24
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

WWW
« Reply #65 on: October 11, 2011, 05:07:30 PM »

Okay, so polls close at 6:30 ET not 6:00.

That is in 23 minutes

Also this
http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Canada/NL/1279609329/ID=2151636106
live coverage!

Also I edit my projection by 30 mins
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

WWW
« Reply #66 on: October 11, 2011, 05:10:02 PM »

The official Liberal and NDP commentators on CBC have declared it as a majoirty for the Tories.
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

WWW
« Reply #67 on: October 11, 2011, 05:15:15 PM »

There is no doubt the elections tonight are the ones that excite me most. We knew what the results were for the other ones - or at least I did - but what's going to happen tonight? that's exciting.
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

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« Reply #68 on: October 11, 2011, 05:22:15 PM »

Question for discussion: will the NDP unseat the Premier?
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

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« Reply #69 on: October 11, 2011, 05:32:46 PM »

This will mark the first time a female party leader has won an election since 2000 in the Yukon
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

WWW
« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2011, 05:35:24 PM »

First results on the board.
1 seat. PC
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

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« Reply #71 on: October 11, 2011, 05:38:41 PM »

NDP on the board. 1 to 1.
Liberals up too.
PC now
P2 L1 N1
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

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« Reply #72 on: October 11, 2011, 05:40:06 PM »

P3 N2 L1
OMG words can not express how excited I am!!!
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

WWW
« Reply #73 on: October 11, 2011, 05:43:52 PM »

STUDENT VOTE
PC 51.6%
NDP 28.5%
Lib 19.1%

REAL VOTE
P13 N3 L2

The NDP is ahead in The Straits, and that's a bit surprising, they could win here.


WATCH LIVE http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Canada/NL/1279609329/ID=2151636106
RESULTS http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nlvotes2011/
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

WWW
« Reply #74 on: October 11, 2011, 05:47:34 PM »

PC 25 (what's needed for a majority)
NDP 7
Lib 2

Minutes in: 17
I projected they'll make a call at 24 minutes in so lets see!
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