The Public White House: Constitutional Convention at FINAL VOTE!

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

I wish to congratulate these members on their appointments.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Thank you to all well wishers, I will do my best.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Can we not spam this thread

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

As a community, we've turned Atlasia into a country we are all comfortable with.

The reason things get personal is that there is no more ideology left to debate.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

I think one of the reasons the game fails TBH is the whole fact that it is american. US politics was designed to allow individuals rights and the ability to stand up for good bills. While that is a "good" thing it is not very "fun".

Compare to example, Canada.

Political Parties here are private entities. The Leader can throw you out of the party - for life - by decree. Therefore if you are an MP, you want to be in the party, because Independents very rarely get elected here. When your party has a majority that effectively means that your leader is Dictator. Of course, he must keep his party happy, or the party and it's MP's can toss the leader aside. All the action takes place in Parliament, in the House of Commons, where you have legislators, cabinet members, and the nation's leader all at one another's throats day in day out. Now that is fun, but not very productive.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

That brings me back to my original point that people are comfortable with the nation as it is.

On each issue, 55% of people are happy. However, there are so many issues that by the end of it, no one is happy with everything.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

If people are truly "tired" perhaps it's time for the R word.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

There's that R word.

I've presided over a few of them, and if you need any help, I am here.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

The only way to properly do the R word is to start from scratch.

That means all of us suddenly find ourselves in a large constitutional convention. There would be no Senate to debate measures because one has not been created yet. We'd have to create the regions (if we even want regions) from scratch (though one would presume that the existing regions would certainly be a popular choice) and we would need to decide what kind of government we even want, a presidential system like we have, or a more parliamentary system where everyone who is anyone sits in the Senate. Do we even want a President? How about a King or a Sultan? Why not hold elections every 3 months or every 5? etc etc etc.

Anything short of starting from scratch is not carrying out the R word.

The only thing that we should decide if we carry out the R word is that the first order of business for the new convention would be to elect a speaker to preside over the debate.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Atlasians,

I STRONGLY OPPOSE the Third Constitution in its current form, with the inclusion of a legislative re-boot:

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I am a little bit miffed at Purple State for trying to sneak this in without any fanfare.  I actually missed this on my first reading.  We are about to throw six years of legislative history right out the window.  Everything our government has ever done, gone, done, erased.  Every bill that anyone at all has ever fought to get passed, we now have to do it again.  This is just fundamentally wrong, plain and simple.

I urge the Convention to remove this clause.  If it does not, I urge the public to vote the new Constitution down.

I didn't see this either. A Con Con and a R word (Reset, Reboot, Refresh, Restart) are different things and should be approached at different times. Without this single clause the Con Con may well pass unanimously, with it, the entire document will fail.