She's Michelle Bachmann. Why is she being taken seriously as a candiate?

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Or, despite the hubris of members on this board, she simply is a serious candidate.  She has stood by the GOP base more than most other members of our party.  Though I find the zeal with which she pursues the gay marriage ban stuff atrocious (it really is not needed, though it makes for less of a negative electoral impact than liberals believe), I think I speak for most of the party when I say we agree with her on more of her positions than any of the other candidates.  Unlike the other candidates, she will contrast with Obama (bold colors, not pale pastels).  She will give the country a choice - something that in all honesty has not been given since Reagan.  Bush pretended he was a conservative in both his election and reelection campaign, only to spend the country away and hand it over to an even bigger spender who proceeded to continue the wars he denounced when Bush was in office.  Barack Obama's presidency became the very thing he accused a potential McCain presidency of becoming - President Bush's third term in office.

I find it refreshing that Michelle Bachmann hails from the more conservative wing of the party.  I think the country will appreciate her fight and drive.  I also believe that she, more than any other candidate, will turn everything Obama has promised and said around on him during the campaign and debates.

For instance, Obama said, "That's exactly right. And you know, a year from now I think people are going to see that we're starting to make some progress. But there's still going to be some pain out there. If I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a one-term proposition."

And what does Bachmann do in her campaign announcement: "We're practical people. We know our country can work; we just want it to work again. It's a very powerful coalition that the left fears; and they should, because, make no mistake about it, Barack Obama will be a one-term president. In February 2009, President Obama was very confident that his economic policies would turn the country around within a year. He said, and I quote, 'A year from now, I think people are going to see that we're starting to make some progress. If I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a one-term proposition.' Well, Mr. President, your policies haven't worked. Spending our way out of the recession hasn't worked. And so Mr. President, we take you at your word."

That's what we need in 12 to win.

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With   the constant  jarring public statements, zealot  social views, and  ignorant    beliefs   on  basic science and economics how is Bachmann   being  elevated above fringe candidate  status?

Constant jarring public statements: "We've got to punish our enemies and reward our friends" - Obama

Zealot social views: "I don't want them punished with a baby" - Obama, and of course the BAIPA debacle

Ignorant Beliefs on Basic Science: Any person who espouses global warming

Economics: All in the opinion of the left...

I'll ignore her creepiness for a moment.  How is a  3 term   house member from Minny,  with  no legislative accomplishments,  and with no economic credentials  going to get the GOP presidential nomination? I cant see that happening.

 

I'll ignore his creepiness for a moment.  How is a half term senator from Illinois, with no legislative accomplishments, with no economic credentials going to get the DEM presidential nomination? I can't see that happening...oh, wait, it did.

Sure she's  leading in Iowa.  Romney has conceded it,  and she could win it by default.  But that's the only place where a candidate like her has a chance.  Iowa basically  has become  a purity test on the   GOP  side.   Its where candidates have to be as Christian as possible   until  voting day. Then they drop it and move on  the other 49 states.   Bachmann  stays in that world and never drops it.

This is an open question.  If she were to scoop up NH from Romney, you could be completely wrong.

NH is a open primary. she has no chance. she scares the pants off   Indys and Dems.  Her   antagonistic social views, lack of economic experience,  and  weird baggage    are too much for  Bachmann  to   attract   the average voter who just    wants a competent  and credible    leader   who can  deliver jobs and security.  Basically I'm  talking about a non Iowa caucus  voter.

I don't think you've met NH voters before.  They vote on candidates for some pretty weird reasons, even based on local innuendo.  I don't see any hatred for Bachmann up here.  You liberals never learn.  You insult people and believe you are better than people.  It is 100% evident in your distaste for a significant portion of the American population.  I don't get it.  I have all sorts of liberal friends and love them to death.  They don't talk about the religious right like you (or other members on the board).

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FistJab: Reagan was ostracized for all of the very same things you mentioned.  It confirms my belief that the establishment of the republican party will not allow us to nominate someone that is truly conservative and we will end up with another George Bush type of politician, who in turn will give us another socialist like Obama.  In addition, are you saying that you would support Palin if she got into the race.? You lumped her with presidents when comparing her to Bachmann.  I don't believe for a second you would support her or give her a chance.  In fact, if this were circa 2010 when we had these discussions.  You would be rolling through the same schtick about Palin.

It's not victimhood to point out the subtle word choices you use to insult the base of the party.  When you complain about Iowan voters and religious zealotry, you are using the instincts of the left.  Obama had more baggage than Michelle Bachmann ever did when he ran for president.  Let's not forget Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers.  Yet, to establishment republicans, he was imminently electable.  We can just shove that under the rug and forget that all of his insanity never existed.  I would be happy to support Perry, but I don't trust him because of the liberal stances he has taken on immigration in the past.  When will republicans and conservatives realize that the last thing Obama wants to run against is a conservative candidate who can combat him and give the people of this country a choice.  The Romneys and Huntsmans of the world are easily defeatable.