Northeast Assembly Thread II

[sentinel]

Please remember that the Lieutenant Governor [or Acting Governor] cannot be Speaker.

Is that the case? I recall Spenster and Bore were Speaker and Lt. Governor simultaneously in the past, but I will withdraw my candidacy and back Poirot if the rules have since changed.

Bore was. So was Spenster (sp) but then we passed an Amendment forbidding that, the Northeast Cabinet Amendment.

[sentinel]

I found the text of the Northeast cabinet amendment that was adopted and voted in referendum:
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=178179.0

I see where it says the lieutenant governor is chosen by the governor. I don't see where it says the lieutenant governor can't be speaker. 

There is a separate law in that case, Poirot. But its there, trust me. You don't want the sh!tshow of having the same Lt. Gov and Speaker.

[sentinel]

I will withdraw my candidacy for Speaker and endorse Poirot.

I'll need to update the Wiki soon- it only dates as recently as June in terms of statute.

Butafly was updating some stuff...I provided all bills passed/rejected/etc in our Civic update thread thats stickied. I believe Bore or Kaljewt passed the Speaker/Lt Gov fix.

[sentinel]

I was appointed? Where?

[sentinel]

I have a question on thread topic title for bills. As speaker, do I need to change title line when we are at a vote, I mean write (final vote) in the thread title?

And when the assembly has voted on a bill, do I need to put (ratified) (passed) or (failed) (rejected) at the end of the title line.

Yes. That is precedent, regardless its extremely helpful.

[sentinel]

I nominate Talleyrand for Speaker.

[sentinel]

hmm, isn't the speaker chosen by the assembly so the governor doesn't vote or nominate someone ?

Speaker is chosen by the Assembly. I'm unofficially nominating Talleyrand if you want to be technical about it.

[sentinel]

This is a reoccuring problem, no one knowing who opens the election for Speaker. None of you are to blame, its just a thing. Dallasfan65 proposed during his confirmation hearing that we give him, the CJO, the power to do just that. I've proposed an Amendment based on his suggestion.

[sentinel]

The Lieutenant governor opens a new session with the election of speaker. I think that has been done in the past. I don't know if there are rules when it's during the session. It could be added to the lieutenant governor's job.

It might be good to name more than one people, or make it any representative in order of seniority, if a specific person is assigned to do a task.

I found the Northeast Assembly Speaker Act (I imagine it's still valid). It could be a place to add precisions on vote proceeding.
https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeast_Assembly_Speaker_Act   

My Amendment fixes the problem for when the Lieutenant Gov and Speaker were the same person.

[sentinel]

Fight! Fight! Fight!

I don't have anything against Talleyrand, but what the Lieutenant Governor is doing is just bull.

Don't be a dick, Goldwater made a simple mistake. There's only five of ya'll its not like we're deceiving the masses here.

[sentinel]

The new Assembly is in session.  Do we elect a speaker now or wait for the Governor to name a Lt. Governor before electing a speaker?

I will be naming Cincinnatus as Lt Governor shortly. Tonight most likely. Then he'll open a vote for Speaker. The holidays are a hard time to start a new session of the Assembly.

[sentinel]

The new Assembly is in session.  Do we elect a speaker now or wait for the Governor to name a Lt. Governor before electing a speaker?

I will be naming Cincinnatus as Lt Governor shortly. Tonight most likely. Then he'll open a vote for Speaker. The holidays are a hard time to start a new session of the Assembly.

Which is one reason for my Uniform December Election Day Amendment.

Its not a bad idea. We'll discuss more when it comes up. I just made the appointments so hopefully Cincinnatus is online soon.

[sentinel]

Something I only just noticed while I was preparing to update the constitution on the wiki page, is that the great fix amendment doesn't seem to be legally watertight.

Here is a copy of the amendment:

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For one thing it doesn't specify which section of Article VI is stricken, so it could either leave the offending passage in place or strike down the whole bill of rights. Also it's not clear where section 2 is to be inserted, or (to me anyway ) what the second part (from however) means.

The quote got screwed up while copying and pasting somewhere. I went around fixing it before people voted ln it...check the referendum.

[sentinel]

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=183145.0

Ugh.

The original:

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Mr. Speaker, I motion to move this to the top of the docket.

[sentinel]

I second Cinyc's nomination of himself for Speaker.

I third it, for the record.

[sentinel]

I am resigning from the Assembly and leaving Atlasia.

That's too bad.  Thank you for your service in the Assembly!

[sentinel]

Can someone explain to me the Canadian aspect of the game? I was under the impression that certain Canadian provinces were part of the Northeast, but now it seems that not only does Canada have a government of its own, but that government is, at the present time, somewhat hostile towards Atlasia. What's the deal here?

Question for the GM or the SOEA

[sentinel]

I'll accept the nomination for Speaker, although I'll have to pay closer attention to ze rules

[sentinel]

Aye

[sentinel]

Is the Lt Gov going to open a vote for Speaker?

[sentinel]

Is the Lt Gov going to open a vote for Speaker?

Missed the post where I was elected, normally even with one nominee we still go through the voting process. I'll get on to being Speaker later today