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H. Ross Peron
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« on: August 01, 2009, 07:15:04 PM »

POD: George Patton doesn't die in accident runs for President.

33. Harry S Truman/Alben William Barkley 1945-1953 Democratic
34. George Smith Patton Jr./Harold Stassen 1953-1961 Republican
35. Richard Milhous Nixon/Nelson Rockefeller 1961-1969 Republican
35. John Fitzgerald Kennedy/Hubert Humphery 1969-1973 Democratic
36. Nelson Rockefeller/Robert Dole 1973-1981 Republican
37. Edward Kennedy/Walter Mondale 1981-1989 Democratic
38. Robert Dole/Jack Kemp 1989-1997 Republican
39. Edmund Brown/Joseph Biden 1997-2001 Democratic
40. John S. McCain/John Ellis Bush 2001-2009 Republican
41. John Ellis Bush/David Petreaus 2009- Republican
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H. Ross Peron
General Mung Beans
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,401
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Political Matrix
E: -6.58, S: -1.91

« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2009, 06:07:49 PM »

The League's Success

1913-1921 Woodrow Wilson
1921-1929 John J. Pershing
1929-1933 Herbert Hoover
1933-1941 Robert La Follete, Jr.
1941-1944 Wendell Willkie
1944-1953 Richard Russell
1953-1961 Lyndon Johnson
1961-1964 Adlai Stevenson
1964-1973 Hubert Humphrey
1973-1977 Spiro Agnew
1977-1985 Edward Kennedy
1985-1993 John Glenn
1993-1997 Gary Hart
1997-2005 Colin Powell
2005-2009 John Kerry
2009-2017 Kay Bailey Hutchison


Good list. Smiley

Thanks. In this list America becomes a lot more like Europe, and we have a French-like economy with Sweden's social values.

Ah, well, not surprising that I love it ! Cheesy

Dystopic to me, especially President Gary Hart!
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H. Ross Peron
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Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2009, 07:49:41 PM »

Nixon in 1960

35. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican, 1961-1969)
36. Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican, 1969-1973)
37. John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat, 1973-1975)*
38. Edmund Muskie (Democrat, 1975-1977)
39. Robert Dole (Republican, 1977-1985)
40. George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican, 1985-1993)
41. Albert Arnold Gore (Democrat, 1993-2001)
42. John Sidney McCain (Republican, 2001-2009)
43. Barack Hussein Obama (Republican, 2009-)

35. Richard Nixon is elected US President in 1960 along with his running mate Henry Cabot Lodge in a close election in 1960 defeating JFK and Lyndon B Johnson. Nixon is a moderate in office on most issues except foreign policy where he is a hawk. Nixon support the Bay of Pigs invasion openly and crushes Castro and Cuba is once again an American ally by the end of 1961. As a result there is no Cuban Missile Crisis and Nixon is tougher against Khruschev. Like Kennedy Nixon escalates the Vietnam War and sends more advisors there. However he does not send troops. At home Nixon heavily pressured signs the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and with Democrats concurring an American Independent Party is formed. Nixon thanks to the division among Democrats is reelected in a landslide victory defeating the Democrats Lyndon B. Johnson and Hubert Humphrey winning in every part of the nation except the Deep South (however he resoundingly carries the Upper South). In his second term as the Vietnam War escalates Nixon goes to China and negotiates with Mao Zedong at the same time taking advantage of the Sino-Soviet split and convinces China to stop aiding Vietnam. In 1966 China invades North Vietnam delighting the US and Nixon and in a fierce war devestates much of the North's army. At the same time the US launches an all-out bombing raid devestating the North Vietnamese. As a result diplomatic relations with Communist China are made and relations with Taiwan broken off. This outrages conservatives in both parties but is relatively popular with the American people. Also to note is that there is no hippie counter-cultural movement as a result of a milder Vietnam War. Martin Luther King is not assassinated and endorses Nixon in the 1964 and later Lodge in the 1968 elections.

36. Henry Cabot Lodge and his running mate George Romney won a resounding victory riding on the triumphant wave of Richard Nixon in the 1968 Presidential Election defeating John Fitzgerald Kennedy and Edmund Muskie. Steady progress is made at home on civil rights and Lodge generally supports moderate policies. Also to note in the domestic front is that Roe V. Wade is not passed and abortion is left to the states. However Lodge will become involved in the Czech War that breaks out in 1971 over reformist policies of Czechoslovakia. The Soviet troops begin attacking the Czechoslovakian populace. In response Lodge sends a small air force detachment including the future President John McCain. The detachment is wiped out and the survivors taken prisonerand World War 3 almost happens which is barely averted. In the 1972 Presidential Election the renominated John F. Kennedy famously says "I will not destroy this planet unlike our current President".

37. John Fitzgerald Kennedy and his running mate Edmund Muskie finally became President in his third try but only barely by a margin of a 100,000 votes. President Kennedy continued domestically the moderate polices of Nixon and Lodge in the face of the continually growing economy. He also negotiated with the Soviet Union to release the prisoners of war. By 1975 Kennedy was hailed as one of the greatest Presidents however his sexual scandals were revealed by the Washington Star and he resigned.

38. Edmund Muskie became President after Kennedy's reelection and his policies were relatively mild. He continued detente with the Soviet Union and friendship with China which grew better after Mao's death in 1976 and Deng Xiaoping's rise to power.

39. Robert Dole and his running mate Ronald Reagan won a very close election that focused mainly on the morality of the candidates and the parties. Dole actually lost the popular vote however thanks to Reagan he carried the key state of California and with it the election. Dole continued support of moderate policy on domestic issues was considered forgettable at least until the recession in 1979. Due to the recession Dole began what was called Doleonomics which critics claimed were largely thought of by Vice President Reagan. In the 1980 election with the economy recovering Dole easily won reeelection defeating Walter Mondale and his running mate John Glenn. Dole's second term however was a sharp contrast when he began abandoning various Doleonomics policies causing the resignation of Vice President Reagan in 1982. Dole replaced the VP with George HW Bush. Dole's term saw military intervention in South Africa when the Race Wars began in latter country. The US occupied Cape Town and helped improvise a provisional government there.

40. Vice President George HW Bush fought a bitter primary battle with Ronald Reagan and barely won. Bush and his running mate Jack Kemp then proceeded to defeat the Democratic ticket of Gary Hart and Edward Moore Kennedy. Especially famous was Bush's statement "Would you want an another Kennedy in the White House?". Bush finished successfully the South African Intervention and proceeded to destroy the Bath regime in Iraq in the Iraq Intervention of 1986. Bush also presided over the fall of global communism as the Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, and North Vietnam all collapsed in the period of 1987 to 1990. In the 1988 election Bush and Kemp won a resounding victory over Lloyd Bentsen and Al Gore. However in 1991 the recession began and the Republicans lost heavy support.

41. Albert Arnold Gore and his running mate William Jefferson Clinton defeated the Republican ticket of Jack Kemp and Dan Quayle mainly due to the recession. By 1994 the recession was over and Gore presided over a boom period in American economics. At the same time Gore also saw the end of communism of China in 1996 and with it the end of communism as the North Korean Intervention began. Gore and Clinton easily defeated the Republican ticket of John McCain and George W. Bush.

42. William Jefferson Clinton was easily nominated in 2000 along with John Kerry. The Republicans nominated John McCain and George W. Bush once more. In a very close election McCain played the Kennedy card on Clinton which may have contributed to the latter's defeat. President John McCain formed the North American Union in 2001 and a plan for the Hemisphere Dollar was implemented in 2002. President McCain successfully ended the North Korean intervention and with it the end of the last vestige of communism on Earth. Economic prosperity continued and the times were quite unremarkable. In 2004 McCain easily defeated Lieberman and Edwards. McCain's second term continued the prosperity and unremarkable.

43. Barack Hussein Obama was the first black candidate of either party and was nominated by the Republicans along with Mitt Romney against the Democratic ticket of Joseph Lieberman and Tim Kaine. Obama and Romney easily cruised to victory and nine months in has been a relatively popular president.
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H. Ross Peron
General Mung Beans
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -6.58, S: -1.91

« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2009, 10:53:43 PM »


A fiscally conservative And socially liberal George W. Bush. And a Gay Dick Cheney

But you said the Eagles were socially conservative.
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H. Ross Peron
General Mung Beans
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,401
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Political Matrix
E: -6.58, S: -1.91

« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2009, 09:54:51 PM »


I've created a list of the most dystopian Presidents possible. The Point of Divergence is that President Roosevelt keeps Henry Wallace as his VP rather than replace him with Harry Truman. Roosevelt still dies in 1945 and Wallace becomes President.

33. Henry Wallace 1945-1949 Democrat
34. Robert Taft 1949-1953 Republican [1]
35. Joseph McCarthy 1953-1961 Republican
36. Harry Byrd 1961-1965 Democrat
37. Barry Goldwater 1965-1973 Republican
38. George McGovern 1973-1981 Democrat
39. Jerry Falwell 1981-1986 Republican [2]
40. Philip Crane 1986-1989 Republican
41. Michael Dukakis 1989-1993 Democrat
42. Patrick Buchanan 1993-1997 Republican
43. Jesse Jackson 1997-2001 Democrat
44. Dan Quayle 2001-2009 Republican
45. Dennis Kucinich 2009- Democrat

[1] Dies in Office
[2] Assassinated
   
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H. Ross Peron
General Mung Beans
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,401
Korea, Republic of


Political Matrix
E: -6.58, S: -1.91

« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2014, 03:43:38 AM »

Washington retires after one term

1. George Washington (Independent-VA): 1789-1793
2. John Adams (Federalist-MA): 1793-1797
3. Thomas Pinckney (Federalist-SC): 1797-1801
4. Charles C. Pinckney (Federalist-SC): 1801-1805
5. Rufus King (Federalist-MA): 1805-1809
6. Charles C. Pinckney (Federalist-SC): 1809-1813
7. John Marshall (Federalist-VA): 1813-1817
8. Simon Snyder (Republican-PA): 1817-1819 Died in office
William H. Crawford (Republican-GA): 1819 Acting
9. Rufus King (Federalist-MA): 1819-1825
10. John Q. Adams (Federalist-MA): 1825-1829
11. Andrew Jackson (People's-TN): 1829-1837
12. Willie Person Mangum (Federalist-NC): 1837-1841 Died in office
Francis Granger (Federalist-NY)Sad 1841 Acting
13. William H. Harrison (Federalist-OH): 1841-1845 [1]
14. Lewis Cass (People's-Superior): 1845-1849
15. Winfield Scott (Federalist-NJ): 1849-1853
16. Morgan Bailey (Federalist-South California): 1853-1857 [2]
17. Stephen Lassiter (People's-Superior): 1857-1859 Died in office
George H. Smith (People's-NC)Sad 1859 Acting
18. George H. Smith (People's-NC): 1859-1865
19. George Spooner (Freedom-VA): 1865-1869 [3]
20. Edward Ballinger (Freedom-WI): 1869-1873
21. Charles Robbins (Freedom-NJ): 1873-1877
22. William Bartley (Unionist-WI): 1877-1878 Died in office
Vincent Meyer (Unionist-Pinckney): 1878 Acting [4]
23. Edward Ballinger (Freedom-WI): 1878-1881
24. Vincent Meyer (Unionist-Pinckney): 1881-1885
25. William W. Kern (Freedom-IL): 1885-1889
26. Matthew Randolph (Freedom-AL): 1889-1893
27. Harrison Brown (Unionist-OH): 1893-1897
28. John Roberts (Unionist-NC): 1897-1899 Died in office
Charles Birch (Unionist-Gotham): 1899
29. Charles Birch (Unionist-Gotham): 1899-1905
30. Arthur Halley (Worker's-Cascadia): 1905-1909
31. Lewis Bostick (Unionist-MA): 1909-1913
32. Charles Roosevelt (Unionist-WI): 1913-1917
33. Hamilton Travis (Unionist-Cascadia): 1917-1920 Died in office
Thomas Orozco (Unionist-Sequoya): 1920 Acting
34. Thomas Orozco (Unionist-Sequoya): 1920-1925
35. Jonathan George (Unionist-West Florida): 1925-1929
36. Robert Ferguson (Unionist-Chicago): 1929-1933
37. Hubert Green (Liberty-Cascadia): 1933-1945 [5]
38. George Gibson (Unionist-Arizuma): 1945-1963 [6]
39. Marshall Clevenger (Liberty-S. California): 1963-1969
40. Taylor Morrow (Unionist-NJ): 1969-1981
41. Matthew Morrello (Laborers'-S. California): 1981-1999
42. Dana Chimura (Unionist-OH): 1999-2005 [7]
43. David Campbell (Laborers'-Deseret): 2005-2011
44. Chris Snyder (Independence-MA): 2011-

[1] Constitutional amendment limiting the President to one term takes effect during Harrison's Presidency. It does allow, however, for Presidents to seek an additional nonconsecutive term in office.

[2] First President elected as a result of electoral college gridlock, in 1852. The House of Representatives would elect Bailey on the third official House ballot, following the elimination of Freedom Party candidate Bryan Williams from that round of ballots.

[3] President Spooner oversees the abolition of slavery in the United States, and becomes the first non-Federalist or People's Party president since the 1810s.

[4] First Jewish President.

[5] Amendment extending the President's term to 6 years takes effect during Green's Presidency. Green also seeks and wins the abolition of term limits with the aid of a Libertian Congress.

[6] Electoral college abolished during his tenure in office.

[7] First Asian-American and first woman elected President.

I'm glad to see a Presidents List with really divergent history and without any OTL figures.
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H. Ross Peron
General Mung Beans
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,401
Korea, Republic of


Political Matrix
E: -6.58, S: -1.91

« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2015, 01:37:54 AM »
« Edited: February 01, 2015, 01:43:39 AM by National Progressive »

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic) 1933-1945
33. Harry S Truman (Democratic) 1945-1957
34. William Knowland (Republican) 1957-1961
35. Hubert H. Humphrey (Democratic) 1961-1969
36. Henry M. Jackson (Democratic) 1969-1977
37. Robert Dole (Republican) 1977-1985
38. John Anderson (Republican/Liberal Union) 1985-1989
39. Robert Casey (Social Democratic) 1989-1997
40. John McCain (Liberal Union) 1997-2005
41. Hugh Rodham (Liberal Union) 2005-2009
42. Brian Schweitzer (Social Democratic) 2009-

Major Parties as of 2017:

Social Democratic Party-Centre-left, "broad-tent" party. Generally strongly supportive of the welfare state and Keynesian economics as well as being internationalist. Diverse on social issues. Strong support by labour unions, working-class and lower-middle class people, and blacks and Hispanics.

Liberal Union Party-Centre-right, "liberal conservative" party. Modelled on European centre-right parties such as the Moderates in Sweden. Accepts the "New Deal consensus" but generally more fiscally conservative. Similarly internationalist and diverse on social issues. Strong support by suburbanites, upper middle-class professionals, and the like.

American Heritage Party-Far-right populist resembling that of the National Front. Strongly protectionist and anti-immigrant but currently divided between an economically libertarian faction and a more pro welfare state one (at least for the "right" people). Largely restricted to the Deep South and some parts of the West.
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H. Ross Peron
General Mung Beans
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,401
Korea, Republic of


Political Matrix
E: -6.58, S: -1.91

« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2015, 10:09:10 PM »
« Edited: August 06, 2015, 10:10:43 PM by National Progressive »

Presidents of the United States of America (First Republic):
32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic) 1933 [1]
33. John Nance Garner (Democratic) 1933-1937
34. Huey Long (Union/Farmer-Labour) 1937-1939 [2]

Military Rule:
35. Douglas MacArthur (Non-Partisan) 1939-1944 [3]

Presidents of the United States of America (Second or Plutocratic Republic):
36. Robert Taft (National Conservative) 1944-1953 [4]
37. Prescott Bush (National Conservative) 1953-1961
38. Richard Nixon (National Conservative) 1961-1976 [5]
39. Nelson Rockefeller (National Conservative) 1976-1977 [6]

Presidents of the United States of America (Provisional Government):
40. Frank Church (Independent/Liberal) 1977-1978

Presidents of the Free American Republic [7]:
41. Frank Church (Independent/Liberal) 1978-1979 [8]
42. Walter Mondale (Liberal) 1979 [9]

Chairman of the Executive Committie of the United People's Socialist Commonwealths of America [10]:
Ronald Reagan (Workers' Front) 1978-1981 [11]
Malcolm Little (Workers' Front) 1981-? [12]

Grand Censors of the United American Republic [13] :
Robert Heinlein 1978-1987
Jerry Falwell 1987-2007
Al Mohler 2007-

Presidents of the United American Republic:
Lyndon LaRouche (United National Christian People's) 1978-

Presidents of the United States of America (Havana Government)
40. Richard Nixon (National Conservative) 1978-1994 [4]
41. George HW Bush (National Conservative) 1994-2007
42. George W. Bush (National Conservative) 2007-2013
43. Jon Huntsman (National Conservative) 2013-

[1] Assassinated
[2] Overthrown in the MacArthur-Patton Putsch of 1939 due to fears regarding the radical policies of the Long administration
[3] Resigned after the 1944 elections
[4] Died in office
[5] Resigned in favour of Vice President Nelson Rockefeller in the midst of the Second American Revolution of 1976
[6] Resigned and fled to Havana after the Great Mutiny of 1977
[7] One of the three governments formed after the disputed election of 1978, largely restricted into the Upper Midwest and parts of New England
[8] Committed suicide during Battle of Minneapolis
[9] Resigned before fleeing to Canada in the face of advancing Christian Nationalist forces
[10] One of the three governments after the election of 1978, had solid control of the West Coast and had outposts throughout the country's industrial centres
[11] Killed in the Battle of San Francisco
[12] Disappeared during the Battle of San Francisco, occasionally has made videos asserting his authority and remains the leader of the American Red Army insurgent group
[13] UAR, a quasi-theocratic, Christian Nationalist-Populist regime was centred largely in the South and Midwest. The office of Grand Censor aimed to supplant the Presidency, ostenibly by providing "spiritual, philosophical, and ideological" guidance to the President but President LaRouche outmaneuvered Heinlein and after the latter's death turned it into a largely inoffensive office
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