CA GOV 2021 - 2022 megathread

[H. Ross Peron]

https://twitter.com/rpyers/status/1392882220470206465

She looks like Marion-Marechal Le Pen.

[H. Ross Peron]

Still a clown.
https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1410916638896107524

If Jenner were somehow the Republican gubernatorial nominee in the regularly scheduled election next year, she would lose by the same 60-40% margin that Republicans typically lose by in California nowadays.

Think about the sort of people who are still Republican in California nowadays-Evangelicals in SoCal exurbia, Central Valley farmers, and diehard anti-Communist Vietnamese immigrants. Hard to see any of them being particularly fond of a transwoman candidate for governor.

[H. Ross Peron]

Still a clown.
https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1410916638896107524

If Jenner were somehow the Republican gubernatorial nominee in the regularly scheduled election next year, she would lose by the same 60-40% margin that Republicans typically lose by in California nowadays.

Think about the sort of people who are still Republican in California nowadays-Evangelicals in SoCal exurbia, Central Valley farmers, and diehard anti-Communist Vietnamese immigrants. Hard to see any of them being particularly fond of a transwoman candidate for governor.

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1413945365510885379

[H. Ross Peron]

Lets say Newsom gets recalled, what could a Republican Governor do with a Democratic state legislature with veto-proof super majorities?

Competently or incompetently manage the executive branch, respond to emergencies, oversee FEMA and the national guard through fire season, etc.

Which is why it's actually so important that Faulconer beats Elder or Paffrath on question two. The mechanisms of state government could absolutely melt down with someone that stupid at the top.

I will be voting for James Hanink of the American Solidarity Party (https://jameshanink.com/) for the second question on the recall. I'm definitely voting no on the recall itself since Newsom-while mediocre-has benefited me personally with the stimulus check and other needed spending. Hanink will give voice to the principles of consistent life ethics and the politics of solidarity in the State of California.

[H. Ross Peron]

Why or how exactly did a state race like this get nationalized? Why is this so much more nationalized  that the NJ or VA race?

It was the Republicans. They literally shot themselves in the foot. Not that they ever had a chance, but The whole thing’s been pretty funny.

Can you explain how republicans nationalized this? It seems to me that Newsom team consisntely had non California politicians all over the news.

Also you realize anyone the GOP would have had as the front runner would have been tabled all the same things they did to elder right?

What were the things they did to Elder? Point to his past history of extreme statements and demonstrate that his views were entirely unlike the median California voter? You seem very aggrieved by this whole election process and I can't understand what about this you think was unfair to Republicans.

Oh I don’t think anything about this in unfair. I just disagree and don’t understand how republicans nationalized this. To me it was totally nationalized by the democrats with bringing in big names who weren’t even California politicians and referencing things going on in different states and talking about future senate appointees.

Also I firmly believe elder or no elder that the democrats would have painted any GOP nominee as far right no matter how moderate they would have been.

The median voter in California is a Democrat who leans towards the left of the national party. The onus is not on Newsom and the CA Dems to avoid nationalizing, because that is exactly what makes turnout spike. The median voter in California wants Dianne Feinstein replaced by a liberal Democrat, vaccines mandated across the entire state, and is repulsed by Trumpism.

Republicans have completely failed at putting up any remotely palatable candidate statewide in the last 10 years, precisely because they have completely ignored the importance of catering your politics towards the people of your state. For a Republican to win, they need to completely disavow the national GOP because that name is radioactive toxic waste in the state of California. The CAGOP nationalized itself in 2010 and continues to nationalize itself, which is why it hasn't won diddly squat.

You can't point at Newsom pulling in the people who appeal to 60% of Californians and go 'wah wah how come they get to nationalize the race' because that's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.

Everything you said is accurate but do you really think even if the CAGOP changes course and nominates socially moderate to liberal republicans and avoids following the national GOP it would make any difference more than maybe a point or two?
I believe that no matter what the letter “R” next to the name will do them in no matter who they run or how well of a campaign they run. It seems like literally no matter who the candidate is even if it’s the CA GOP version of Charlie Baker dems in CA will just call that person a Trump candidate which is annoying since you can be a Republican and not have anything to do with Trump. That’s the most annoying part of this is how much they make this about Trump when he isn’t even on the ballot and isn’t president

As long as Trump remains the GOP's figurehead and the person every Republican sucks up to out of fear of getting primaried, nobody's convincing anyone that he's not a factor.

The CAGOP lives in terror of their base. They kicked out Chad Mayes for having two brain cells to rub together. Kevin Faulconer has more Democrats voting for him than Republicans. There is no appetite for serious governance or actual leadership in the CAGOP, not since their Faustian bargain with the Tea Party.

If you've managed to take Orange County, the birthplace of Reagan and Nixon, which voted for Bush by 20 points in 2004, and turn it blue up and down the ballot, there is something deeply deeply wrong with your approach to politics.

The modern California Republican is more concerned about sucking up to the national GOP and playing this self-effacing "Everyone hates California, that's why they're all leaving!! Right, guys?? Haha Commiefornia amirite" shtick than seriously appealing to anyone outside their base.

We’ll in fairness even in 2010 and 2014 when Trump wasn’t a factor pro choice republicans like Meg Whitman and Neel Kashmiri got killed as well

California GOP needs to moderate on economic as well as social issues to win statewide considering they will have to flip large numbers of Latino and Asian voters.

[H. Ross Peron]

Lol

https://twitter.com/AstorAaron/status/1437978736876470275?s=20

Based low-income Korean and Vietnamese seniors voting for rental aid and Covid restrictions.

(To their credit, most Asian Trump supporters have been largely supportive of Covid regulations such as masking and have been vaccinated at overwhelmingly high rates)

[H. Ross Peron]

Philosophically, I am not someone who values democracy in and of itself.

I am a classical liberal. I believe in private property rights, freedom of contract, freedom of exchange, individual liberty, and an extremely small and passive govt.

A democracy without a safeguard like our bill of rights would lead to as bad abuse of human rights as any monarchy or dictatorship.

The great mass of humanity has shown itself to be no more respectful of the rights of others than a despot.

I would much rather live under a king restrained by a constitution than a democracy in which everything was determined by majority rule.

You should be reminded of the fact that you are in no sense an original thinker nor that you've stumbled upon particularly insightful arguments by parroting these right-liberal talking points which would have been not out of place in the Victorian Era. I urge you to research and meditate upon the fate of the July Monarchy in France which, more than any other government in history, approached the conditions you speak of.

[H. Ross Peron]

https://twitter.com/sfchronicle/status/1438897970989109253

Very sceptical Newsom won noncollege whites in 2018 by 10 percentage points

[H. Ross Peron]

Still votes to count, but here's the current change in turnout map from the 2020 presidential election.

Lake County seems very late in reporting results.