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Kalwejt
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« on: March 06, 2017, 12:21:09 PM »

I've long been in favor of the EU having more or less integrated Armed forces. If NATO goes dead, I simply see no other alternative.

Not sure whether I'd call the European nuclear problem as "unthinkable idea", though. It was suggested once or twice during the cold war it would be better to have a shared pool, instead of two countries having it separately.
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2017, 04:10:18 PM »

Militarization of any form is bad.

As a reasonable measure of defense in case of the United States taking their ball home?

Even with the NATO intact, we can't just depend on U.S. presence indefinitively.
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2017, 04:32:55 PM »

Kalwejt, why did you delete my post ?

You are a moderator and not a dictator like Erdogan.

Also behave like a mod then (correcting my post and not deleting it).

Personal insults against other posters are not to be tolerated.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2017, 04:30:02 AM »

The present situation is a bit like the US without a military, but each state having it's own force, with much more contrasts than current national guards.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2017, 05:50:32 AM »

Kalwejt, why did you delete my post ?

You are a moderator and not a dictator like Erdogan.

Also behave like a mod then (correcting my post and not deleting it).

Personal insults against other posters are not to be tolerated.

There was no personal insult though, I was just making some joke about ApatheticAustrian's user name ... I could also call him "AppalachianAustrian" etc.

Calling other posters "autistic", whether jokingly or fully intentionally, is not the same as the latter. I don't expect you to understand why it's wrong, just don't do this.
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2017, 07:38:17 AM »

I just hope it won't get stuck like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Defence_Community
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2017, 04:24:38 PM »

unless, lets say, the Soviets were rolling through their mom's back yard.

They certainly do in mom mom's backyard.
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2017, 07:12:55 PM »

Well I guess Nigel Farage was right, he often mentioned this possibility as a reason to get out of the EU, and was laughed at as a kook by many for this very claim. I doubt many soldiers would want to fight in a European army rather than their own countries armed forces.

i am pretty sure, not a single european soldier would want to fight in some globalist, multinational, imperialist tool like...let's say...NATO or so.

     At least NATO's not a bureaucratic pseudo-nation that dreams of someday becoming a real nation.

There's absolutely no reason why Europe shouldn't become a federal state someday. The thirteen colonies were once a pseudo-nation too.
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