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MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
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« on: November 01, 2016, 03:14:55 PM »

Not being in any way a Trump supporter, coming to the forum and start with making "ban all Trump supporters" petition is a silly way to start.
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MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2016, 07:56:47 AM »

Sure, let's transform the forum into a giant echo chamber. That would be very interesting.
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Kalwejt
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2016, 08:00:38 AM »

And by the way, I know it's unpopular thing to say this, but labeling all Trump supporters as fascist is tempting (to make things easier for our little brains), but not factual. Many of them supports Trump for reasons that are explainable and such attitude is only making the real fascist stronger by pushing "soft supporters" far to the right. Let's use our brains to understand their stance and how to prevent them going over to the dark side.

I've experienced bigotry first hand so I have no sympathy for racist Trump supporters. But I also know  people can change. Don't just put a cross on them. I've seen many otherwise decent folks making such a mistake.
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MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2016, 02:51:45 PM »

Sure, let's transform the forum into a giant echo chamber. That would be very interesting.

In a week, we'll go back to normal, with plenty of disagreement (but all civil), thankfully.

I really, really want this election to be over already.
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MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2016, 06:12:55 PM »

And by the way, I know it's unpopular thing to say this, but labeling all Trump supporters as fascist is tempting (to make things easier for our little brains), but not factual.

i know this seems to be a controversial opinion, but supporting a fascist campaign does make one a fascist

The problem is, most of Trump supporters probably doesn't realize this.

Really, we struggle to understand, as political junkies, the way most of the people (from all backgrounds) votes.
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Kalwejt
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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2016, 06:16:59 PM »

Btw, remember Wulfric's "who supports Sanders is a socialist by definition" argument?
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Kalwejt
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 05:25:00 AM »

Btw, remember Wulfric's "who supports Sanders is a socialist by definition" argument?

comparing limp social democracy to fascism, of course, remains a false equivalency

Mechanism is the same.
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Kalwejt
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2016, 07:14:00 AM »

Btw, remember Wulfric's "who supports Sanders is a socialist by definition" argument?

comparing limp social democracy to fascism, of course, remains a false equivalency

Mechanism is the same.
no, because fascism, again, is not in the same sense a viewpoint

I'm refeering to an "automatically makes you a ..." point.
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