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Kalwejt
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« on: January 17, 2015, 07:37:06 AM »

To a large extend, Libertas brought this upon himself. While there was some improvement from his old version, he retained essentially the same unnecessary belligerent attitude and just couldn't keep himself from escalating the whole "controversy" by reacting to every provocation by the likes of Snowstalker he should've ignored. The victim complex of some "grand conspiracy to reban him" didn't help either.

I really tried to be helpful to him, and so did the others, but he just didn't listen.
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Kalwejt
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2015, 09:40:31 AM »

I haven't really followed the made over Libertas, because his act bores me, but when you manage to be let back after a ban, it's pretty stupid to push the edge again right away and return to the  high maintenance mode

Indeed. Libertas failed to understand that, as freshly un-banned controversial poster, he is on, shall we put it, probation.
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Kalwejt
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2015, 04:27:21 PM »

Did Adam (Ohio Adam, not Georgia Adam) seriously try to make this into an Atlas repression of gay rights thing?

A bunch of self-hating gays with anti-pro-homosexual agenda teamed up with the Junior Anti-Sex League to purge the Atlas Forum and make it a straight-only domain.
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Kalwejt
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2015, 05:34:19 PM »

Did Adam (Ohio Adam, not Georgia Adam) seriously try to make this into an Atlas repression of gay rights thing?

A bunch of self-hating gays with anti-pro-homosexual agenda teamed up with the Junior Anti-Sex League to purge the Atlas Forum and make it a straight-only domain.

LOL.

I can see two sides to the issue.  The root of the problem seems to be a non conciliatory nature which was intrinsic to his style of debate.  It should have been more evident that this element had not disappeared.  It is unfortunate that the appearance of how this occurred lends credence to the theory that the specific content of his new posts was as much of a factor as his previous history on the forum.

Obviously, there are clear inconsistencies in the manner with which users are banned.  It seems to be as much a flaw in the system in how the death points are accrued as much as any grassroots push from posters; for example, some people have been talking about banning Bushie for years, for trying to scam members into buying into Ameriplan, among other things.  The fact that Krazen is still here, spamming threads with links to faux-news sites, is a mystery.

The more I think about it, the less I understand why he would be permitted to post here only briefly just to be given the boot once again.  It seems like an exercise in pointless 'proving of a point.'

You're making lots of good points. Banning policy is hardly consistent.

As of Libertas' particular case, I must admit the swiftness of his banning was surprising, especially as he just gave up arguing in certain thread. I still feel he mishandled his return, not realizing that, as freshly re-banned controversial poster he should have displayed less belligerent attitude (at least for some time). Yet his return was somewhat derailed by hostility he received (including from those who weren't even around for his original tenure). Behavior of some during the "affair" leaves bad taste.
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Kalwejt
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2015, 04:40:42 AM »

I, one of the self-hating, sexless, prudish, anti-fun, slut-shaming, anti-pro-homosexual gays on the moderation team, was against him coming back in the first place.
What did this guy even do that makes you hate him so much lol? I mean, I didn't agree with him on everything, but he made some damn good threads and contributed a lot to the forum in terms of content. Apparently he had been banned back before I joined, but unless he was literally destroying the forum, let it go.

I don't say this to criticize your authority.

Too late.

RIP, FF.
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Kalwejt
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2015, 02:41:02 PM »

Having no access to the mods cave I can only speculate, but I'd guess one of the reasons for banning policy being inconsistent is that moderators can be quite divided in their opinions in individual cases. While Nym is the sole decision maker, moderators' voice surely matters a lot, especially in controversial cases, such as opebo's (with no consensus reached until last moments, as explained already by the mods, Nym was reluctant to press the button).
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Kalwejt
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2015, 08:42:53 AM »

The real travesty is that people think banning a poster needs constitutional justification or something. Who cares?

It's typical for some to act like the internet forum is a real life society, while real life society is like some internet forum.
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