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« on: April 30, 2013, 01:19:12 PM »

He is a direct descendant of Republican Senator David MacKenzie of Vermont.

I guess you meant his direct descendant is Republican Senator David MacKenzie of Vermont.
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2013, 05:24:43 PM »

When and under what circumstances did David MacKenzie lost his virginity?
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2013, 07:04:28 PM »

This thread could become somewhat interesting if it's purpose would be something more than presenting your own political views, for which, frankly, you don't need to pretend you're writing a story.

Just sayin'.
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2013, 12:28:34 PM »

This thread could become somewhat interesting if it's purpose would be something more than presenting your own political views, for which, frankly, you don't need to pretend you're writing a story.

Just sayin'.

Also, how the flying fyke did this guy get elected Senator of Vermont?


Well, that's one fine, due to possible butterflies (though some background wouldn't hurt). If we take look at the original Americana, none of these people would have a place in their home states in RL.

The problem is, I don't see a "character", I don't see a "story", just a couple of talking points. I may disagree politicaly with the character, actually I prefer to for the diversity sake, but give him some life, man.
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2013, 04:30:38 PM »

This thread could become somewhat interesting if it's purpose would be something more than presenting your own political views, for which, frankly, you don't need to pretend you're writing a story.

Just sayin'.

Also, how the flying fyke did this guy get elected Senator of Vermont?


Well, that's one fine, due to possible butterflies (though some background wouldn't hurt). If we take look at the original Americana, none of these people would have a place in their home states in RL.

The problem is, I don't see a "character", I don't see a "story", just a couple of talking points. I may disagree politicaly with the character, actually I prefer to for the diversity sake, but give him some life, man.
What do you mean?

http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/alternate_history/butterfly_effect
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2013, 05:35:27 PM »

This thread could become somewhat interesting if it's purpose would be something more than presenting your own political views, for which, frankly, you don't need to pretend you're writing a story.

Just sayin'.

Also, how the flying fyke did this guy get elected Senator of Vermont?


Well, that's one fine, due to possible butterflies (though some background wouldn't hurt). If we take look at the original Americana, none of these people would have a place in their home states in RL.

The problem is, I don't see a "character", I don't see a "story", just a couple of talking points. I may disagree politicaly with the character, actually I prefer to for the diversity sake, but give him some life, man.
What do you mean?

http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/alternate_history/butterfly_effect
Did you read the answer I gave Mechaman?  If that's not satisfactory, I can add some divergences.

And I wrote it's actually plausible, though more background would be nice.
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2013, 06:28:34 AM »

Another example is Montana politics in Mecha's TL, which is so heavily Democratic due to being dominated by the Irish Americans and their political machine, urban population and even unions (correct me if I'm missing something, too lazy to find a particular post).

As of my TL, Alabama politics is dominated by a coalition of African Americans, blue collars from the North, educated urban whites and remaining hardcore New Deal populists, too loyal to either jump Republican or Wallace camp (in fact, lots of them did vote Humphrey in '68). Basically, Albert Brewer's attempt to built such a coalition succeeds, but without Brewer (a successfull example would be Edwin Edwards' base in Louisiana). Said coalition overtook the state party and while in RL the GOP started to make gains by 1964, they still were rather weak on machine level. The Republicans (a new type of Republicans) and Dixiecrat dissidents are basically boxed in the Southeastern part of the state.

I believe our point is that downplaying social issues and focusing on the economy is not enough. Vermont long remained a Republican, partisan-wise, state, but far more moderare than your character appears to be. In order to make it work, especially in the 2000s, you need to come up with some plausible political process. And I'd be the first to read with interests. 
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2014, 06:20:27 AM »

Pleasuring yourself is a sin, Oldies.
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