SENATE BILL: Empowering Regions in Federal Elections Amendment (sent to regions)

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Sorry, wrong thread, wrong bill...

Please disregard my motion.

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I think this bill will be good for regional activity at the local level. So far, it seems like the regions are removed from the entire process altogether, so I hope the senate and the President considers this.

So you want federal elections to looks like one of the recent IDS regional elections in which only three people did vote (and you weren't one of those three?)

It will be a mess. I mean, we're voting on ratifying one constitutional amendment right now and two regions (cough, Archangel, cough Snowstalker) are yet to open their damn booths.

At current stage I really don't want to handle this to the regional officials. We have Department of Federal Election which is doing a superb work.

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This will not change anything. People who are inactive and are coming here just to vote will still do the same, whether it's regionally-maintained or federally-maintained booth.

This bill is, IMO, a waste of time.

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I think this bill will be good for regional activity at the local level. So far, it seems like the regions are removed from the entire process altogether, so I hope the senate and the President considers this.

So you want federal elections to looks like one of the recent IDS regional elections in which only three people did vote (and you weren't one of those three?)

It will be a mess. I mean, we're voting on ratifying one constitutional amendment right now and two regions (cough, Archangel, cough Snowstalker) are yet to open their damn booths.

At current stage I really don't want to handle this to the regional officials. We have Department of Federal Election which is doing a superb work.

We had more than 3 people vote in the most recent IDS election...

But yes, I don't understand why people are so afraid of having regions administer the voting booths for federal elections. We can still have the SoFA certify the results, as I am sure Teddy will continue to want to do. This bill isn't anymore useless than one of your VP bills, Kal, which I ended up supporting, so I am not sure why you are so concerned about this one.

To be honest, Duke, I have very low confidence that all regional governments can properly fulfill this important task in a proper manner. We all know regional officials are sometimes experiencing serious problems when it's coming to fulfill duties like this. Remember, for example, when Rowan openly admitted he doesn't care about condicting an election. And yes, we had crisis that required federal intervention.

There are examplary regional officials, like PiT, who's always doing these things in time, but, sadly, such a dedicated public servants are not that common as should be.

In other words, my confidence in regions isn't great.

On the other hand, my confidence in the SoFE is absolute.

Beside, whether we have regional booths or one federal booth doesn't matter. Active citizens will vote regardless of this. Zombies will vote whenever they are told to. Those who don't give crap are still going to.

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Ill support the caucus sh**t if you vote to send this to the people, Kal.

I have no problem in sending amendments to the people, even if I'm going to vote nay on ratification. You, on the other hand, are not in position to complain about "the people being denied a chance to ratify or reject an amendment" afer voting, here in Senate, against sendind to them both National Initiative and Separate Election.

Btw, in case you haven't noticed, I'm not sponsor or co-sponsor of caucus, as you said personally, "s**t". 

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Kal, I already explained two you that I was asked by constituents to not support that particular amendment.  I know you aren't a sponsor of that.

Unless you spoke to each one of your constituents, it's both dangerous and kind of lame to pretend to be a voice of your constituency.

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I agree with Bacon King that it's better to have one federal booth for President and Vice President. If Class A elections would work under proposed rules, I'll be the first to endorse amending this futher to include presidential elections.

As a safeguard, I'd also like to see the SoFE certyfing election results, while regional officials shall administer the booth. If everything works, we can amend this later and cede it all to the regions.

So I propose following amendments and I'll certainly vote aye for the amendment under this modyfied form.

Empowering Regions in Federal Elections Amendment

1. A region's governing body shall have the authority to determine procedure for administration of voting and certification of election results for their own Class A Senate elections in the months of February, June, and October. A region's governing body shall also have the authority to administer voting and certification of election results for Presidential elections consistent with federal election law in the months of February, June, and October.
 
2. A region's governing body may determine the means of election to Class A Senate election.

3. To ensure a fair process of election, any alternative system of voting chosen by the region's governing body for Class A Senate elections must be conducted in public, on-site, and may not disqualify any candidate meeting the qualifications set in the Constitution.

4. If a region fails to open a vote for their Senator and President within 12 hours of when polls must open, a Federal Officer of the Executive Branch shall open the vote on behalf of the region.

5. Secretary of Federal Elections shall certify election results in each region.

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That version failed before and for good reason.

If we'll retain federal booths only for at-large Senators, we may just abolish the office of SoFE or make it important office a second-class caricature.

I'm willing to drop first proposal (all right, let's do regional booths for President as well), but I strongly insist to adopt regions-administers-SoFe-certifies thing.

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I've aalready amensed that part out.

All right, my bad.

PPT, please disregard this.

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Aye

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Frankly, I see no point of doing this.

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Whatever...

Aye.

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Meh... aye.