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« on: May 10, 2024, 08:54:49 AM »

Whether Biden loses or not is irrelevant, the future is they're going left. Biden's generation are getting old, retiring, and/or dying. Remove that crew and I think you're going to see a much less white, much less old party that's going to give zero time or thought to issues outside of cities.

If you asked me right now, Gavin Newsom has no shot at winning a presidential nomination for the foreseeable future. I've seen enough Democratic voters in elections recently not for President say anonymously to the reporter "I'm not voting for a white man". Throw on top of that Democrats simply don't exist in a lot of rural areas, and it's going to become a much more insular less outward looking party, copying the mannerisms of southern black Democrats effectively.
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2024, 07:19:03 AM »

I think labor issues could unite the core of the party...

Democrats' stances on immigration and labor are contradictory to say the least.
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2024, 01:08:15 PM »

I think labor issues could unite the core of the party...

Democrats' stances on immigration and labor are contradictory to say the least.

Democrats aren’t willing to support immigrants explicitly as workers who deserve solidarity, because that would be class politics of the kind contemporary Democrats are uncomfortable with, so they would rather frame it as something DEI-adjacent or at best, a question of human rights. The human rights/social justice approach only gets them so far though.

If they want to take that tack, fine, it's just not pro-labor.
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2024, 03:02:53 PM »

I think labor issues could unite the core of the party...

Democrats' stances on immigration and labor are contradictory to say the least.

Democrats aren’t willing to support immigrants explicitly as workers who deserve solidarity, because that would be class politics of the kind contemporary Democrats are uncomfortable with, so they would rather frame it as something DEI-adjacent or at best, a question of human rights. The human rights/social justice approach only gets them so far though.

If they want to take that tack, fine, it's just not pro-labor.

How so?

If I double the supply pool with people willing to work for less per hour or benefits than you, your bargaining power declines. Labor is on an upswing the past few years as far as getting pay raises, and the reason why is a shortage of labor out there, which shows up in the unemployment rate. It also cannot be underestimated how the under the table aspects of some immigrant labor effectively kills those that are citizens and have to follow the law otherwise the IRS pays them a visit. Do you know how much a competitive advantage a worker has that does not have a W-2, 1099's disappear, does not pay payroll, FICA, Social Security, state, and local taxes have over one that does? Meanwhile no one does anything to the business owners and individuals that hire these people.
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