Obama/Biden vs McCain/Palin

[Josh/Devilman88]

Who will win. What will the EV Map look like?

[Josh/Devilman88]

Palin brings conservatives around, Biden makes some sort of gaffe, perhaps an anti-women remark toward Palin.  Easy win for McCain, I think its not much of a contest anymore:

Hehe....

[Josh/Devilman88]

My dad a very big christian right person just called me and told me he isn't voting because of this pick.

[Josh/Devilman88]

My dad a very big christian right person just called me and told me he isn't voting because of this pick.

Okay. So he hates women?

I think people will automatically assume, based on appearances, that Palin is pro-abortion and generally socially liberal unless told otherwise.

No alot of christian righters believe a women shouldn't have power over men. Its stupid and sexist I know, thank God I broke away and think differently.

[Josh/Devilman88]

I can say what ever candidate win will win by alot. This election will break one way and stay that way soon.

[Josh/Devilman88]

I'm most likely voting for Obama, but holding my nose while doing so

McCain/Palin 278
Obama/Biden 260

NH is not going to vote for McCain.....

[Josh/Devilman88]

Like I say...I think we're toast.

Wow.  Seriously?

Yep.  And I am starting to think Oregon might be in play, too.  McCain is on his way to a borderline landslide unless he/she make a major misstep.

Why?

Because he said so... Anyways the polls say other wise.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Like I say...I think we're toast.

Wow.  Seriously?

Yep.  And I am starting to think Oregon might be in play, too.  McCain is on his way to a borderline landslide unless he/she make a major misstep.

Why?

It's not just that she's female.  It's that she's a rugged sort, a northwesterner, an outdoors-type.  She's the John Tester of the GOP, except a hell of a lot better looking.  Oregon is always close.  My HOPE is that Oregon will see how extremely conservative she is on choice -- wanting to imprison abortive women and abortion providers -- and will reject her on that premise.  That said, they are going to like that she found middle ground on the gay rights issue, and that she has challenged the old conservative lions in her state.  I am NOT SAYING Oregon is now in play. I am just saying if the election keeps moving in the direction it's been headed, it may be.  You gotta remember, McCain now has the Palin thing in his favor.  But he also has the Rove thing in his favor.  It won't be long before we hear that Barack Hussein Osama was a cocaine dealer, involved with organized crime, and other goodies.  We've already had the nonsense that he is a Muslim, he is ashamed of the flag and that he and his "ghetto wife" are militant, white-hating racists.  None of that will EVER come from John McCain's mouth.  But it will come from the 527's that support him.  And it will be every bit as effective as it was against John Kerry.  I don't think America has learned a damned thing.

I give McCain a 35% chance of winning... The Obama camp will paint him as Bush and it will not even be close on election day.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Like I say...I think we're toast.

Wow.  Seriously?

Yep.  And I am starting to think Oregon might be in play, too.  McCain is on his way to a borderline landslide unless he/she make a major misstep.

Why?

It's not just that she's female.  It's that she's a rugged sort, a northwesterner, an outdoors-type.  She's the John Tester of the GOP, except a hell of a lot better looking.  Oregon is always close.  My HOPE is that Oregon will see how extremely conservative she is on choice -- wanting to imprison abortive women and abortion providers -- and will reject her on that premise.  That said, they are going to like that she found middle ground on the gay rights issue, and that she has challenged the old conservative lions in her state.  I am NOT SAYING Oregon is now in play. I am just saying if the election keeps moving in the direction it's been headed, it may be.  You gotta remember, McCain now has the Palin thing in his favor.  But he also has the Rove thing in his favor.  It won't be long before we hear that Barack Hussein Osama was a cocaine dealer, involved with organized crime, and other goodies.  We've already had the nonsense that he is a Muslim, he is ashamed of the flag and that he and his "ghetto wife" are militant, white-hating racists.  None of that will EVER come from John McCain's mouth.  But it will come from the 527's that support him.  And it will be every bit as effective as it was against John Kerry.  I don't think America has learned a damned thing.

I give McCain a 35% chance of winning... The Obama camp will paint him as Bush and it will not even be close on election day.

I hope you're right, Josh.  I really do.

Now seriously -- are you an Obama supporter?  Weren't you a McCain guy awhile back?  I can't keep my fellow forumites straight.

No I wasn't a McCain guy.. I was a Romney turn Edwards turn Obama Supporter.... I have done alot of rethinking of my views and why I had them views and most of them were because that is what my parents told me was right.