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« on: June 27, 2008, 02:55:24 PM »

They also have Lautenberg up 17 on Zimmer, both poll results are trash

Sure they are trash, but I think they are only a few points off from what it is really.
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2008, 05:09:30 PM »

Which would leave pretty much Rasmussen, Strategic Vision (which is sort of a partisan poll), SUSA, and Mason-Dixon.  At least 3 of those will show a McCain lead at some point
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2008, 05:38:51 PM »

Which would leave pretty much Rasmussen, Strategic Vision (which is sort of a partisan poll), SUSA, and Mason-Dixon.  At least 3 of those will show a McCain lead at some point
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LOL this coming from Mr. NC is Dem I'm 80% sure!!!
At least NJ has a history of polling like this

McCain only had the lead in NJ during March is because of the split in the Democratic party over Obama and Clinton. In NC blacks will make up 23% of the voters, Obama winning them around 94%, and getting 34% of the white vote.. he will win by 1 or 2 percent.
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2008, 06:19:46 PM »

Which would leave pretty much Rasmussen, Strategic Vision (which is sort of a partisan poll), SUSA, and Mason-Dixon.  At least 3 of those will show a McCain lead at some point
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If you really believe that you are stupid, sorry to say but you are.
LOL this coming from Mr. NC is Dem I'm 80% sure!!!
At least NJ has a history of polling like this

McCain only had the lead in NJ during March is because of the split in the Democratic party over Obama and Clinton. In NC blacks will make up 23% of the voters, Obama winning them around 94%, and getting 34% of the white vote.. he will win by 1 or 2 percent.
So, because I think McCain will lead some polls in NJ I am stupid, than under your logic what does that make someone who believes w/80% certainy that Obama will win a state that 99% of the forum thinks he will lose?

99% of the forum said Obama would win NC by less then 10% in the primary. I said he would win around 15% or so.. I was right about that.
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2008, 07:03:09 AM »

This is just too funny! Obama is hardly as good a fit for New Jersey and Al Gore was, so the logic that NJ is Dem +16 this cycle in a 50/50 race is laughable.

Also, Josh, I can only hope your NC general prediction is as accurate as your primary one, which was not right. Saying ludicrous things like that will hurt any credibility you have left.
Which would leave pretty much Rasmussen, Strategic Vision (which is sort of a partisan poll), SUSA, and Mason-Dixon.  At least 3 of those will show a McCain lead at some point
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If you really believe that you are stupid, sorry to say but you are.
LOL this coming from Mr. NC is Dem I'm 80% sure!!!
At least NJ has a history of polling like this

McCain only had the lead in NJ during March is because of the split in the Democratic party over Obama and Clinton. In NC blacks will make up 23% of the voters, Obama winning them around 94%, and getting 34% of the white vote.. he will win by 1 or 2 percent.
So, because I think McCain will lead some polls in NJ I am stupid, than under your logic what does that make someone who believes w/80% certainy that Obama will win a state that 99% of the forum thinks he will lose?

99% of the forum said Obama would win NC by less then 10% in the primary. I said he would win around 15% or so.. I was right about that.

North Carolina

Obama: 52%
Clinton: 46%
Other: 2%


Indiana

Clinton: 55%
Obama: 43%
Other: 2%


I also maybe another prediction after that saying it would be much higher.
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2008, 08:59:51 AM »

Well, Josh, hard to be wrong when you predict every possible outcome I guess

Look at your Prediction map and look at my prediction map... who's is closer to the real out come?
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2008, 01:59:42 PM »

BTW Josh, we have 4 states different, all considered swing states (CO, NH, PA, MI)

You have all of the Mid-west, besides IL as toss-up. You have WA as a toss-up and you have CA as lean Obama. You have NC strong McCain and VA and MO as lean McCain... I guess you don't look at polls.
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2008, 02:04:49 PM »

BTW Josh, we have 4 states different, all considered swing states (CO, NH, PA, MI)

You have all of the Mid-west, besides IL as toss-up. You have WA as a toss-up and you have CA as lean Obama. You have NC strong McCain and VA and MO as lean McCain... I guess you don't look at polls.
Damn you owned me there!!!  I'm sorry I base my thoughts on logic rather than summer uni polls.  And if you read my prediction, I said Washington was an oversight.

No you base it off of hackish dreams. My map is based on on trends. But we will see in Nov when McCain gets crushed by Obama.
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