Why do conservatives keep saying California has "collapsed"? (user search)
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  Why do conservatives keep saying California has "collapsed"? (search mode)
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Question: Do you believe California has collapsed/is on the verge of collapsing?
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Author Topic: Why do conservatives keep saying California has "collapsed"?  (Read 4725 times)
Sumner 1868
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Junior Chimp
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« on: July 12, 2018, 12:34:24 AM »

Newly moved to the West Coast (albeit not California), I get the impression that the way in which liberals try to deal with poverty on the state and local level is fatally flawed. For example take the homeless situation in Portland for example, I get bombarded with campaigns to pass bond issues to "deal with" the problem by enacting a government program, yet no effort is made at all to alleviate the structural problems that result in such extreme problems with homelessness in the first place: the high cost of living, restrictive zoning laws, land use policies, NIMBYism, tolerant drug culture, the state lottery, etc. Oregon is willing to pay lip service to the problem of poverty, and indeed runs massive campaigns upon it, but completely unwilling to even seriously consider the sort of lifestyle changes needed to address the structural causes of poverty.

Basically this. I would also note a phenomenon exists in Seattle at least where the locals are fine with increasing federal and state taxes but not city taxes. This is very problematic in a city with over half a million residents for obvious reasons.
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