What would you take for you to vote for the opposite party that you generally lean?

[Aurelius2]

Rob DeSwampAss gets the nom. I've voted in 4 elections and in all the last 3 I voted straight R. I fully intend to do so again in 2024 unless he is the nominee.

[Aurelius2]

Rob DeSwampAss gets the nom. I've voted in 4 elections and in all the last 3 I voted straight R. I fully intend to do so again in 2024 unless he is the nominee.

You mean you would vote Biden over DeSantis? How would you vote downballot? (I personally would vote DeSantis over Biden, though it's like a -100 vs a -110. However, if the opponent were someone like Tony Evers, or even Hillary Clinton, I would vote D over DeSantis, especially if I knew the Senate were going Republican).

DeSantis, unlike Trump, actually scares me as someone who could successfully push authoritarian policies through Congress.

Also, how would you vote if you lived in FL for governor 2026?

I deeply dislike the hardcore socon side that Ron has shown lately. Huge, huge step down from Trump in that regard. Massive turnoff, and it's my least favorite part of the GOP. Usually I am able to overlook it because I'm much closer to the Republicans on basically everything else, the candidate isn't emphasizing it nearly as much, and/or it's obvious that it's just empty talk meant to pander to the evangelical vote. For DeSantis on the other hand, he's shown that he actually acts on it, and not only that but it's also clearly the driving impetus behind his campaign at this point. And for me, the anti-gay stuff is personal. He barely cares about most of the other things I care about, and in this area he's actively terrible, so strong chance I hold back my vomit and grudgingly vote for Biden. Not only is he bad on the stuff he's a hardcore socon on, he's also recently revealed himself as an authoritarian across the board, and a nanny-statist on a level I haven't seen from a serious Republican candidate in a very long time. I also like my candidates to not appear superimposed over a Nazi symbol in a campaign video.

Trump ranges from vexing to infuriating on his personal drama and his nonsense about "stolen elections", but I agree with him on 90% of policy issues, and frankly on foreign policy the blob is so strong that they'll get their way half the time regardless, and I find them at least as disagreeable as Trump on fopo, just in the other direction.

I would still vote R on every race downballot. As for Gov, DeSantis will not be eligible to run again until 2030, so presumably I would vote for whichever Republican gets the nom in 2026, unless they are a vile RDS clone.

[Aurelius2]

I would still vote R on every race downballot. As for Gov, DeSantis will not be eligible to run again until 2030, so presumably I would vote for whichever Republican gets the nom in 2026, unless they are a vile RDS clone.

Who would you vote for if DeSantis changed the constitution to run for a third term? He has already eliminated the "resign to run" rule.

The Democrat. He must be destroyed and made irrelevant.

[Aurelius2]

I probably have somewhat lower standards for Democrats than Republicans, actually -- because both parties will rule America about half the time, it makes sense for me to vote for better-than-replacement Democrats, who will then hopefully have more of a voice in their parties, even if I would find a Republican with the same views very distasteful. In the past I've used gun rights as a good litmus test, with people like Manchin/Donnelly/Heitkamp getting my hypothetical vote so that the Democratic Senate caucus is more pro-gun-ownership, though as the conservative victory on this issue gets more entrenched and it becomes less relevant I'll probably need to find something else.

I used to have this approach, and it's why I voted for Steve Glazer when he ran for state Senate. Then covid rolled around and he was one of the loudest and worst advocates for eternal lockdowns and all sorts of other bad stuff. Not making that mistake again.

[Aurelius2]

I probably have somewhat lower standards for Democrats than Republicans, actually -- because both parties will rule America about half the time, it makes sense for me to vote for better-than-replacement Democrats, who will then hopefully have more of a voice in their parties, even if I would find a Republican with the same views very distasteful. In the past I've used gun rights as a good litmus test, with people like Manchin/Donnelly/Heitkamp getting my hypothetical vote so that the Democratic Senate caucus is more pro-gun-ownership, though as the conservative victory on this issue gets more entrenched and it becomes less relevant I'll probably need to find something else.

I used to have this approach, and it's why I voted for Steve Glazer when he ran for state Senate. Then covid rolled around and he was one of the loudest and worst advocates for eternal lockdowns and all sorts of other bad stuff. Not making that mistake again.

No one aside from Arthur Chu who is no longer relevant in the slightest and perhaps a few other Twitter clowns was calling for "eternal" lockdowns.

It's a figure of speech. Unlike every other state except New Mexico, California had true lockdowns that extended into 2021.