Phil you need to make up your mind, either people didn't vote Democrat because they didn't like Pelosi, or because they didn't like the Democratic agenda. If you say the agenda was the problem then obviously it wouldn't have mattered who their leader was, they'd have lost anyway. If Pelosi was the main reason people voted Republican and Democrats had done a lot better without her, then your basicly saying people didn't find the agenda that objectable.
Uh...Pelosi pushed an agenda that the public didn't like. Pelosi was just especially polarizing while pushing that agenda.Ah but was she the man behind the agenda? Would the agenda be different with another Speaker? The house might have passed a more moderate HCR with a more moderate Democrat as Speaker, but I doubt that HCR would have been any more popular than this one, and I doubt the loss would have been any lesser. Either you're saying the voters failed the entire Democratic agenda, in which case it doesn't matter if their future leader is Pelosi or a horse, or they just failed Pelosi's personal agenda.
So let me ask you again. Was it the Democrat's ideas and policies that failed, or was it their leadership? Do you believe the Democrats would have maintained the House if they had a Speaker Hoyser instead of Pelosi?
