Hillary: "Businesses don't create jobs"

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It's not clear gaffes have any effect. I'm not even sure Romney's 47% did and that was less than 2 months before the election not more than two years. It also came with the added power of being secretly recorded and confirming an image of him in a way this doesn't for Hillary. (Her image is being too corporate friendly.)

What I find interesting about this gaffe is it came in the same speech where Clinton was showering Warren with praise and came a day or two after Warren's Shermanesque denials of a run became a version "I don't think I'll run but maybe". It seems an obvious response to that development.  Clinton was working to not just butter Warren upend win her over but also to co-opt her populism to make a Warren run unnecessary. It's kind of funny that now Clinton and Obama have both tried to emulate Warren's "You didn't really succeed alone" riff in their presidential campaigns but in doing so, went much further to the left in their rhetoric than Warren, whose original was actually pretty moderate and in tune with mainstream opinion. Warren, in an actual campaign, would have way more appeal to moderate voters than people here are now realizing. She's a former Republican in fact.

It's a bit alarming that Hillary was so sloppy months after her dead broke gaffe but, again, I assume she'll become more disciplined as she does it more.

[Bull Moose Base]

She's a former Republican in fact.

Mind you that Hillary is also a former Republican.

Yeah, when she was a kid. Warren was a Republican until middle age. The "I didn't leave the party, the party left me" thing is an easier play if the change didn't happen during your teenage years. But that's all besides the point. I agree Hillary appeals to centrist voters. My point was Warren would also have more appeal to them than everyone here seems to understand. Not just because, like many people who have voted Democrat in the past couple years, she's a former Republican. But because her views are much more mainstream than people realize.

[Bull Moose Base]

As expected, she's already taken this back. Also, it's weird that Ice Spear posted this gaffe and no one here commented on it for 24 hours.