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Question: will Barack Obama be re-elected?
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yes
 
#2
no, he will lose
 
#3
no, he will decline to seek
 
#4
no, he will resign/die/be incapacitated
 
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Mechaman
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« on: June 05, 2009, 06:31:02 AM »

When you got as much charisma and persuadability as Obama, it would take a thermonuclear holocaust to lose reelection. The economic downturn started during Bush's term and he can always leave the blame on the Bush regime. And when the economy gets worse he can just claim it's just an aftereffect of Republican policies enacted a long time ago blah blah blah and knowing the guillability of the electorate, they might just buy it.
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2009, 05:25:31 PM »
« Edited: June 06, 2009, 05:06:54 AM by Mechaman »

When you got as much charisma and persuadability as Obama, it would take a thermonuclear holocaust to lose reelection. The economic downturn started during Bush's term and he can always leave the blame on the Bush regime. And when the economy gets worse he can just claim it's just an aftereffect of Republican policies enacted a long time ago blah blah blah and knowing the guillability of the electorate, they might just buy it.

A theormonuclear holocaust?  God, you're a dumbass.  I can think of any number of reasons for Obama losing, and the economy is only one of them.  The electorate certainly may be gullible (which is why they elected the fool in the first place) but Obama will own this economy by 2012.  If the economy has not recovered or is getting worse, then things will not look well for him.
Obama owned the economy once he was elected.  It's not going to get better until it gets worse.  Another reason for him not winning reelection is crap happening in North Korea and the Afghanistan stuff not coming to a conclusion.

Maybe I should rephrase what I said because it seems it goes over alot of peoples' heads: Obama has a friggin ubermann personality. He is quite frankly, a master debater (couldn't resist, lol). It would take something huge to make him defeatable. The economy would have to get almost as bad as it was under the Depression, North Korea goes ape and nukes somebody, or Obama appoints some mega liberal judges onto the Supreme Court and a nationwide ban on handguns occurs, just to name a few. I meant to say something EXTREMELY BAD would have to happen before Obama gets defeatable.
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2009, 05:28:48 PM »

When you got as much charisma and persuadability as Obama, it would take a thermonuclear holocaust to lose reelection. The economic downturn started during Bush's term and he can always leave the blame on the Bush regime. And when the economy gets worse he can just claim it's just an aftereffect of Republican policies enacted a long time ago blah blah blah and knowing the guillability of the electorate, they might just buy it.

The damage that the previous administration did to the economy will take years to undo. We can see it in a declining dollar, commodity prices from cocoa to gasoline, costs of imports and foreign travel, and a falling standard of living. Ordinarily pro-business conservatives call for sacrifices so that Big Business can invest in plant and equipment, research and development, and the like. Now it simply enriches executives who wield dictatorial power over employees. Hint: it's ordinarily a good idea to leave the family farm -- but not in the last ten years. When the quick, easy money is to be made by legalized loansharking, we have big problems.

The American public recognizes that things are bad -- but perhaps not how bad. We might have been better off to let the failed giant banks go under; all that they were able to do that the smaller banks were unable to do was to play a shell game of getting increasingly-bigger volumes of loans irrespective of quality. To Hell with that sort of banking! I'd love to see some of the high-flying bankers of five years ago have to pawn off their Mercedes-Benz autos for bus fares, beans, and rent for some cr@ppy apartment.

The only way for us to get out of this mess is to do what we used to do well -- small business.
 

I think the way I worded this came out awkward. I'm not saying the Republicans are free of guilt or playing partisan here, just saying that Obama is too charismatic and persuasive to the average joe to lose reelection. Once again, he's a master debater (I had to).
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2009, 05:03:02 AM »
« Edited: June 06, 2009, 07:31:03 PM by Mechaman »

Look Vanderblubb, sometimes I think the power of words are too powerful and I forget how powerful reality can be (yes I looked at the thread with the 2008 election being predicted in 2005, lulz). I haven't totally changed my mind but now things look 50-50 to me. I honestly think the economy can get worse than it is right now and I believe that can have an effect on Obama's election chances. Personally I think alot of the economic policies he's pursuing are crazy (look at my economic score for crying out loud). I guess I should give the average American more credit.......
So yeah you're right, I am a dumbass. But in my defense I've had only 5 hours of sleep in the past two days so my judgement may be a little cloudy.
But could've you been at least a little more civil about it?
And also, where the hell do I talk about social justice?
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2009, 07:21:14 PM »

A lot of it will hinge on how he handles the Israeli attack on Iran.

Don't forget the North Korean attack on South Korea.  Oh, and the Prussian attack on Muscovia, too.  And the Romulan attempt to implode Earth as well; that's going to be the real test for Obama.
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2009, 07:28:42 PM »

In 2012, if 1) the economy has rebounded nicely; 2) there are no unpopular foreign wars and 3) there is no major scandal in which the president is complicit, Obama wins re-election - and handsomely Smiley


What if all that happens healthcare blows up in his face? I know Clinton survived, but unlike Clinton, Obama practically made universal healthcare the center of his campaign.

That is also true. It seems like the only two things I hear out of Obama are: 1)Buy Murican and 2)Universal Healthcare.
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2009, 10:15:18 PM »

When you got as much charisma and persuadability as Obama, it would take a thermonuclear holocaust to lose reelection. The economic downturn started during Bush's term and he can always leave the blame on the Bush regime. And when the economy gets worse he can just claim it's just an aftereffect of Republican policies enacted a long time ago blah blah blah and knowing the guillability of the electorate, they might just buy it.

Ronnie Reagan didn't mind with predecessor Jimmy Carter. (Smart man. And, hey, facts are facts!)

(The part of your post I like best has been highlighted in bold. My way of saying thank you!)

Wow, this post seems so old. I'm actually 50/50 on this issue right now. But yeah, I still think things will have to get batsh**t insane.
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2009, 07:59:24 AM »

Pbrower, Huckabee will clearly win Washington DC because he is religious and so are most black people. This scenario has not been proven impossible so I will keep talking about this every day until election day.

And Huckabee will win the Magical Unicorn vote, right.
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