Would it be better for the left if Hillary lost?

[Mechaman]

Scott Walker governs Wisconsin like a dictator, completely excluding Democrats from the political debate unless they sell out. He would effectively be a regent for the Koch dynasty, and with majorities in both Houses of Congress he would support legislation that would gut civil liberties and voting rights -- and Congress would approve them and he would sign them. With the GOP majority expanded in the Supreme Court, America could become for all practical purposes an Apartheid state in which minorities and the poor are effectively shut out. Elections could become a farce even if people can participate in them. As Democrats become irrelevant, the Republican supermajorities in both Congresses and in control of 3/4 of state legislatures could amend the Constitution almost at will.

ALEC would collaborate with Republican majorities in one state after another to fully entrench the Republican party forever in most states whenever they get Republican majorities with 'model' legislation.

I see no reason to believe that Scott Walker would change his ways as President of the United States from how he behaves as Governor of Wisconsin.  

Scott Walker would be the last freely-elected president of the United States, and even his second term would be the result of a rigged election.

PBrower, just stop. You've completely lost your mind because of last year's republican wave, and now you're convinced that by screaming whatever falsehoods cross your mind that 2016 will be some sort of democratic bloodbath, and it's not realistic or funny. No matter how much you say otherwise, CA-SEN IS NOT MORE COMPETITIVE than PA-SEN, Approval Ratings aren't some highly reliable statistic (Scott Brown, Mary Landrieu, Kay Hagan, Lincoln Chafee, and Mark Begich were all popular in the senate. They still lost. Mitch McConnell, Pat Roberts, and Richard Burr were all unpopular, they still won.), Murkowski is not a far-right winger, Toomey is not favored to lose, Walker does not enjoy rigging elections like he's some sort of Putin clone (he didn't make democrats irrelevant in WI, why would he do it nationwide???), whatever Walker does is not necessarily in place for all eternity, etc. etc. etc.

Just get a grip on yourself, and stop this act. You're just letting it take over every part of your life on here, and it's not doing you any good.

Pbrower spent YEARS arguing that the Obama Democratic majority is here to stay and that Jon Huntsman would be the 2020 Democratic nominee as the Second Era of Good Feelings commences. Now that two large midterm losses in a row have shattered his flawed reception of reality it is understandable if he has gone completely bonkers.

Some people do not genuinely understand that in politics you win some and you lose some (not that much different from sports really).  Though the realistic of us (though many would call us "cynics") realize that if there is a "sport" that most resembles US Politics it's not professional baseball, but professional wrestling.  For obvious reasons.

[Mechaman]

Well since I took enough time to bash pbrower, I guess I deserve to give this forum my opinion on this matter:

The idea that it is better for any side in politics to "lose" an election is just incredibly dumb.  Until the day comes when people suddenly develop the mental power to predict the future the "left", the "right", the freaking Jive Turkeys or whoever the hell is running should try to win every election that comes up.  GO BIG OR GO HOME DAMN IT.

Seriously, ROTFFLMFAO.  And I'm saying this as someone who would like for Hillary Clinton to never EVER sit in a political office again.