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Mechaman
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« on: August 26, 2012, 12:55:57 PM »
« edited: August 26, 2012, 01:00:21 PM by James Badass Monroe »

I know it's stubborn, but if I become HagridOfTheDeep (IB-SC), I have left the Whigs. SJoyce, you know I love the IB... But I joined the Whigs because that's where I felt I belonged, and I don't want that to change. And other than the membership swaps, I don't really see what this proposition would actually do. TJ and clarence didn't always vote the same, so obviously caucusing together wouldn't really matter; and endorsements don't really matter much either, because people will support who they're going to support. Mechaman didn't vote for any Whig whatsoever!

So to me, this proposition basically reaffirms the status quo with the exception of forcing me to join another party.

For the record, it was nothing personal.  I just had to preference the two joke candidates and SJoyce (since I'm a party hack who takes his marching orders explicitly from the Kremlin, err I mean the Imperial House).  By the time I got to my fifth preference any vote I gave any of you guys would've been non-existent (hell, do they even count votes past fifth preference?).
That, and admittedly there were a lot of kickass candidates to support.  Something that, sadly, would've affected my voting choices Sad.

With that said, I do agree with Hagrid's conclusions (though I am not a Whig, and probably won't ever consider myself one.  Sorry guys Sad).  If there is an election that all of us feel is important enough to rally behind a common ticket, we will do so.  It shouldn't be something enforced by party structure.  That is the beauty of Atlasia that we don't see in American politics: parties working together to achieve a common goal.

I voted for the Clarence/Yelnoc ticket last presidential election.  I voted for ZuWo/Jbrase.  Those were worthy tickets and I would probably hesitate to support another Whig Presidential candidate, but (like last time) if the candidate gives sufficient reason to support them I will!  As I would expect a lot of other IB members to do.

You fine principled folks shouldn't have to change for anyone Smiley
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Mechaman
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2012, 01:03:31 PM »

I know it's stubborn, but if I become HagridOfTheDeep (IB-SC), I have left the Whigs. SJoyce, you know I love the IB... But I joined the Whigs because that's where I felt I belonged, and I don't want that to change. And other than the membership swaps, I don't really see what this proposition would actually do. TJ and clarence didn't always vote the same, so obviously caucusing together wouldn't really matter; and endorsements don't really matter much either, because people will support who they're going to support. Mechaman didn't vote for any Whig whatsoever!

So to me, this proposition basically reaffirms the status quo with the exception of forcing me to join another party.

For the record, it was nothing personal.  I just had to preference the two joke candidates and SJoyce (since I'm a party hack who takes his marching orders explicitly from the Kremlin, err I mean the Imperial House).  By the time I got to my fifth preference any vote I gave any of you guys would've been non-existent (hell, do they even count votes past fifth preference?).
That, and admittedly there were a lot of kickass candidates to support.  Something that, sadly, would've affected my voting choices Sad.

With that said, I do agree with Hagrid's conclusions (though I am not a Whig, and probably won't ever consider myself one.  Sorry guys Sad).

You fine principled folks shouldn't have to change for anyone Smiley

Actually Mecha you're 5th preference is currently the one that ends up counting actually Tongue

Ehh right.  Well, I kind of felt the need to troll Atlasia, thus my vote for seatown.  I used very similar logic a few months ago when I gave Wormyguy first preference.

Again, no hurt personal feelings.  Well, except for the lack of generous bribes Grin.
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Mechaman
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2012, 01:04:12 PM »

You fine principled folks shouldn't have to change for anyone Smiley

Wink

In all honesty though, I don't care too much that you didn't support us... that's for you to decide (and after the June IDS campaign, I don't blame you Tongue). My point, though, is that an alliance like this would look fine and dandy on paper, but I don't think it would achieve anything different than what the current reality already is.

I completely agree.
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