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Alexander Hamilton
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« on: July 30, 2009, 11:34:12 PM »

Cooldige, Nixon, Cleveland, John Adams.

Those four.
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Alexander Hamilton
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,167
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.58, S: -5.13

« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2009, 10:38:28 PM »

Cooldige, Nixon, Cleveland, John Adams.

Those four two.

You realize, do you not, that Nixon and Adams were philosophically antithetical to Coolidge and Cleveland? Two of the above wanted to decrease the size and scope of the Federal government; two of the above massively expanded it. Care to take a guess as to who did what?

     Generally speaking, I find that most admirers of John Adams & Richard Nixon admire them for reasons completely unrelated to the policies that they supported. Of course, that makes posting them in a topic about the most underrated President nonsensical.

It's all conservative inconsistency and hypocrisy. They know they're supposed to support someone, someway, for some reason, but the actual reasons for that support utterly escapes them. So Nixon - who created, among other things, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration and the Environmental Protection Agency, and then escalated our interventionist exploits in Vietnam - is given the same lauds as the isolationist Coolidge, who would have gutted both, only because he was "demonized" by the dag-gummed lib-uh-rul media.

American conservatism is a hollow pretense.

LOL at thinking I'm a mainstream conservative, I think most people here see me as more liberal than conservative. This thread wasn't which President do you agree with. This thread was "Who is the most underrated President in history?" I, of course, pluralized it. I do think these four are very underrated, never given enough credit for what's come of their administrations and policies, and frankly, aren't done justice by the disgusting congregation of high school textbooks.
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Alexander Hamilton
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2009, 01:14:14 PM »

Lyndon B. Johnson.

His work is one of the greates in History : the fulfillment of Lincoln's one, he was the man of the Great Society, but all his presidency is reducted to the Vietnam war. That's really a shame...

LBJ isn't so underrated, he frequently makes the Top 12 Presidents in history.

Which means he is about 20 places overrated. Tongue
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Alexander Hamilton
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,167
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Political Matrix
E: 0.58, S: -5.13

« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2009, 03:16:02 PM »

Lyndon B. Johnson.

His work is one of the greates in History : the fulfillment of Lincoln's one, he was the man of the Great Society, but all his presidency is reducted to the Vietnam war. That's really a shame...

LBJ isn't so underrated, he frequently makes the Top 12 Presidents in history.

Which means he is about 20 places overrated. Tongue

*7 places underrated

You know the reason most people hate him is your country's fault, right? Tongue
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Alexander Hamilton
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,167
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E: 0.58, S: -5.13

« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2009, 01:59:57 AM »

Lyndon B. Johnson.

His work is one of the greates in History : the fulfillment of Lincoln's one, he was the man of the Great Society, but all his presidency is reducted to the Vietnam war. That's really a shame...

LBJ isn't so underrated, he frequently makes the Top 12 Presidents in history.

Which means he is about 20 places overrated. Tongue

*7 places underrated

You know the reason most people hate him is your country's fault, right? Tongue

Why ?

nam man
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Alexander Hamilton
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2009, 09:15:09 PM »

France is the reason American ever intervened in Vietnam, Antonio.
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Alexander Hamilton
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,167
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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2009, 12:36:55 AM »

France is the reason American ever intervened in Vietnam, Antonio.

Yes, but that doesn't mean you can blame France. It was America's decision.
Correct.  It is the fault of LBJ, JFK, Ike, congress and the voters....in that order.

Would LBJ have been in Vietnam if not for France? Doubt it. Had France not had terrible imperialist policies, maybe LBJ would get the respect Antonio feels he deserves.
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