Fusion Voting Bill [At Final Vote]

[Alexander Hamilton]

Well, no, actually. I was think more along the lines of endorsements for races that the party neglected to run a candidate in. For instance, Xahar could run as a JCP candidate in the Southeast. I don't think there would be a point to list a candidate endorsed for 5th preferences or something ridiculous like that LOL. I guess that might not be clear but this can obviously use some work.

That's one of the reasons I said the endorsement had to be approved by the chairman after voting, to stop things from getting ridiculous. I don't think there is anything wrong with what, say, New York has.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Yes, perhaps this is best suited for single victor elections, namely President, Governor, Regional Senator, Lt. Governor, and Special Elections for At-large Seats.

[Alexander Hamilton]

I don't think the Senate has jurisdiction over regional elections.

Either way, this makes sure that fusion voting isn't illegal if a region wants to implement it.

[Alexander Hamilton]

How does a SoFA determine that a party has made an endorsement?

Notification of approval by the chairman of endorsing party.

[Alexander Hamilton]

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I don't like it. Every voter must inform by himself about the endorsements of the parties. When he want to know it, the he can look into the convention thread.

Find one convention that hasn't fallen into petty arguments that cloud up multiple pages.

[Alexander Hamilton]

In many races, a party neglects to run a candidate. Marokai, you might remember quite well your special election race to replace DWTL. The DA did not run a [legitimate] candidate. In July, DWTL was essentially the RPP/DA candidate against Fritz (who ironically was a former DA member and much closer to their membership ideologically than DWTL, not that it matters). The same could be said for numerous regional races. Why shouldn't Mechaman be able to wear JCP under his name against Vepres if the JCP endorses him? That is the whole point of endorsements, otherwise it is simply a way for people to reveal how they will vote earlier than the election, which is pointless.

[Alexander Hamilton]

This bill attempts to rectify those problems, Marokai. Endorsements shouldn't be about just co-signing a campaign. It's about giving your party representation where you don't field a candidate. For all pragmatic purposes, Hashemite was the de facto JCP candidate in October's Senate race. Why not just have him on the ballot with both parties listed? Seriously, we have 5 major parties and not every race is a 5 candidate race, nor should it be. Fusion voting works in practice where it is allowed and it won't hurt to try it here. If it didn't work out, it would be easy to repeal. Why not give it a try? This isn't just a "change for change's sake."

[Alexander Hamilton]

Further, like I said before, this bill is not just meant to clutter up ballots. The language requires an official certification by chairman and an acknowledgement of acceptance by the candidate. This isn't some measure just to give everyone a bunch of parties listed after their name. This is meant to solve the problems, give parties more of a voice and hopefully make elections more competitive, by causing candidates to earn endorsements in some instances rather than just run unopposed.

[Alexander Hamilton]

You've made a good, and shockingly mature, case for it. I'll give it more thought, but I'm still hesitant.

I don't fool around when I'm serious.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Earl hasn't been on in a month and we have an election coming up soon. Just replace him, or else what? We have an election with no SoFA?

[Alexander Hamilton]

Who else would even want to be SoFA? I mean, someone suggested they did once but I am not sure if they still would be interested.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Max, I don't think you'll find many people willing to take that job. Perhaps you could do it. I don't mean that in a snarky way or anything.

You know what, I actually agree that Max would make a great SoFA. He should think about it.

[Alexander Hamilton]

I am open to changing my votes both ways at this moment, ftr.

Vote nay. Think of the cluttered and ugly ballots.

Ballots won't be ugly or cluttered. It would ultimately be up to parties and candidates. I think that a ballot like this:

Mechaman
Atlasia Reform Coalition
Jesus Christ Party
Democratic Alliance

Vepres
Independent
Progressive Conservative Party

Would not be cluttered or ugly, instead, it will allow voters to be more informed and help democracy.

[Alexander Hamilton]

All it does is give voters a better feel for what is going on, rather than digging through 30 page conventions looking for who their party endorsed.

[Alexander Hamilton]

I support this bill. It is a great idea.

I don't see why anybody would be against it.

They are elites who oppose freedom. Maybe?

[Alexander Hamilton]

Maybe voters should have to take their own initiative to find our who parties endorse. A law like this, it seems, would only make the required minimum involvement of a zombie voter even less.

Zombie voters are activated PMs. Ask Dear Leader bgwah. This has nothing to do with zombies.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Maybe voters should have to take their own initiative to find our who parties endorse. A law like this, it seems, would only make the required minimum involvement of a zombie voter even less.

Still the zombie obsession?

No, I don't believe that there is a zombie problem; I'm just trying to sway Hashemite.

I think it would help Hashemite to have the Jesus Christ Party listed under his name in February.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Besides, it worked in New York. Owens won, didn't he?

[Alexander Hamilton]

Nay



A massive amount of nonsense and waisted time that would only make it harder to keep an active SoFA.

Massive?

Waisted?

[Alexander Hamilton]

Nay



A massive amount of nonsense and waisted time that would only make it harder to keep an active SoFA.

Massive?

Insert any other adjective you prefer that would describe something being "big" or "large" if "massive" doesn't sound right.

It specifies that the imformation be given to the SoFA,

Don't argue against obstruction, Xahar. It's unfeasible!

[Alexander Hamilton]

I think Bacon King's vote on this will reveal if he is, indeed, going to seek the Presidency in February. It would be unwise to vote against this unless he wants to build upon his current reputation as a senseless obstructionist [see: Southeast Assembly]. If he wants to run for the Presidency, he will show leadership and vote for progress.

That's my analysis.

[Alexander Hamilton]

I disagree with Fritz. If legislation in the queue or on the floor is removed, why wouldn't the votes be? It's clear that the Senator's removal means all his standing legislative work is undone, including votes.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Yankee loves killing the RPP more with every word and vote.