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  Which senator was the most conservative? (search mode)
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Question: Who was the most conservative?
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Jesse "Senator No" Helms
 
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Barry "Mr. Conservative"  Goldwater
 
#3
Robert "Mr. Republican" Taft, Sr.
 
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« on: October 02, 2010, 04:30:03 PM »

Robert Taft was a true conservative, Barry Goldwater was a neoconservative, Jesse Helms was a flip-flopping neocon.
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2010, 03:11:35 PM »

Let's see...Goldwater was a social liberal, Taft a foreign-policy liberal.

Obviously Helms was the most conservative.

LOLOLOLOLOL.

What, are you saying Taft was an interventionist?

Robert A. Taft had a conservative foreign policy. You have a liberal foreign policy, along with Woodrow Wilson and Harry Truman.
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2010, 03:19:35 PM »

Let's see...Goldwater was a social liberal, Taft a foreign-policy liberal.

Obviously Helms was the most conservative.

LOLOLOLOLOL.

What, are you saying Taft was an interventionist?

Robert A. Taft had a conservative foreign policy. You have a liberal foreign policy, along with Woodrow Wilson and Harry Truman.

lol

Oh, and FDR and Lyndon Johnson and Hubert Humphrey and John Kerry and Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden... And Barack Obama.

Why aren't you a Democrat? Huh
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2010, 03:36:44 PM »

And Leon Trotsky, whose followers invented the idea, rather recently, that it is in any way conservative to have an interventionist foreign policy.


And just think of how fundamentally anti-conservative war is. The effects it has on our own culture could never be described as anything resembling conservative. Think of the changes that went on during the world wars. Families were uprooted from their homes; young men were shipped off to die in some unknown foreign land; those who stayed behind were forced to give up their family farms or small-town lives in order to earn a wage in the cities, with women now working in factories producing death machines in order to support their families. The psychology of the people was changed from one valuing individualism, free markets, and respect toward other nations, to one valuing big government, central planning, and a collectivist "us vs. them" mindset.

War and interventionism are just so fundamentally incompatible with traditional American conservatism.
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2010, 04:29:48 PM »

With regard to the neocon-Trotskyite connection, here's the old "illustrated progression" which traces the roots of the neocon ideology. As you can see, neoconism is not conservatism, it did not grow out of conservatism, it's not related to conservatism. Trotsky is indeed the granddaddy of neocon ideological thought.

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