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« on: February 22, 2010, 04:53:30 AM »

Good riddance to the Huckster.

Will he be registering as a Democrat soon? I hope so.
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2010, 05:07:25 AM »

I think he's got a point, but it doesn't have anything to do with libertarianism. The point to be made is that there's a disconnect between the party in Washington and connected activists and lower middle class voters who care about social/cultural issues, and want decent social services while getting tax breaks for small businesses.

The Republican Party has become a place where the ideological line is one that reflects corporate masters. It was inevitable that this would happen because of what wasn't really a free market outlook at all, but a corporatist one. The party and activists wanted, surprise surprise, a multi-millionaire CEO to be the nominee in 08. Romney is a product, and they thought they could sell it and make money off of it. He's an insider, Huck wasn't. These two competing groups ended up getting a candidate neither wanted, John McCain...

Huckabee has attacked libertarians and Ron Paul on multiple occasions, as if they were corporate Washington insiders.
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2010, 06:21:01 PM »

Odds are, either Mike Huckabee isn't going to run for president in 2012, or he is too stupid to realize that most of the Republican Party is becoming (or at least trying to make it look like it's becoming) the party of smaller government and economic conservatism/libertarianism. If he was serious about running for president, he would have at least pretended to embrace the GOP's theme of smaller government and libertarianism.

Good riddance to the Huckster.

Will he be registering as a Democrat soon? I hope so.

No. Social conservatives such as Mike Huckabee left the Democratic Party after the Democratic Party enacted civil rights legislation.
That is blatantly false - social conservatives began leaving the democratic party after Roe vs. Wade and the school prayer rulings.  It had nothing to do with civil rights legislation - you forget that most blacks are social conservatives.  Quit propogating the Christian = racist bs.

With that said, Huckabee is a joke.  There was nothing wrong with CPAC other than Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Ryan Sorba this year.  Ron Paul, George Will and Beck were right on target (though I strongly disagree with Paul's national security views).  We need to end the Fed, end the departments of Homeland Security, the CIA, the Department of Education, Medicare, and Social Security.  We also need to cut spending significantly.

I wasn't trying to suggest all social conservatives were racist. However, I personally think there is no denying that many of the Democrats who left the party after the civil rights era were considered socially conservative back then. And social conservatives have been voting Republican in most presidential elections since then. And in terms of policy, with the exception of civil rights, Huckabee seems to be similar to most of the social conservatives who were once Democrats.


Not really, no. Social conservatives and racists are both still present in the Democratic Party.
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2010, 06:43:05 PM »

Odds are, either Mike Huckabee isn't going to run for president in 2012, or he is too stupid to realize that most of the Republican Party is becoming (or at least trying to make it look like it's becoming) the party of smaller government and economic conservatism/libertarianism. If he was serious about running for president, he would have at least pretended to embrace the GOP's theme of smaller government and libertarianism.

Good riddance to the Huckster.

Will he be registering as a Democrat soon? I hope so.

No. Social conservatives such as Mike Huckabee left the Democratic Party after the Democratic Party enacted civil rights legislation.
That is blatantly false - social conservatives began leaving the democratic party after Roe vs. Wade and the school prayer rulings.  It had nothing to do with civil rights legislation - you forget that most blacks are social conservatives.  Quit propogating the Christian = racist bs.

With that said, Huckabee is a joke.  There was nothing wrong with CPAC other than Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Ryan Sorba this year.  Ron Paul, George Will and Beck were right on target (though I strongly disagree with Paul's national security views).  We need to end the Fed, end the departments of Homeland Security, the CIA, the Department of Education, Medicare, and Social Security.  We also need to cut spending significantly.

I wasn't trying to suggest all social conservatives were racist. However, I personally think there is no denying that many of the Democrats who left the party after the civil rights era were considered socially conservative back then. And social conservatives have been voting Republican in most presidential elections since then. And in terms of policy, with the exception of civil rights, Huckabee seems to be similar to most of the social conservatives who were once Democrats.


Not really, no. Social conservatives and racists are both still present in the Democratic Party.

Well, of course. Both parties have some members who are racist(though there are more racist Republicans than there are racist Democrats.) But there were far more social conservatives prior to the enactment of civil rights legislation than there were after it was signed. These days, most social conservatives vote Republican.

There was no correlation between being racist and being socially conservative. The South had the most liberal abortion laws in the nation pre-1973.
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