New Year Brings New Laws

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

From Texting to Tanning, New Year Brings New Laws

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I bet everyone feels safer now with these 40,697 new laws on the books. Your government is hard at work to improve your lives.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

This really is more of an example of my problem with the Libertas type. It doesn't matter if the new laws are useful, effective, or serve a good purpose. It doesn't matter what the usefulness of the laws are at all to him.

To people like Libertas, it's foolish to argue over effectiveness or whether a law serves a good purpose or not, because Libertas and his ilk sidestep that sort of argument entirely. To them, it doesn't matter whether or not something is making society a better place in any respect, because their beef is over whether government should do anything at all.

It's really quite an immature and shortsighted philosophy. Instead of arguing against the fact that pretty much everything cited in this article are good laws indeed, Libertas simply says "ew, look, laws."

Nanny laws are bad.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Marokai, with your sort of nonsense and low-class behavior what else do you expect? I'd be more than willing to debate the merits of these laws (what little we know of them) but instead you make blanket generalizations and constantly assert your obvious intellectual superiority no matter what. Grow up.

I wasn't making a blanket generalization, it was a comment directed mostly at Libertas' immature dismissal of laws simply because they are, obviously, laws. It didn't matter what effect they had or if they were good or not, he simply said "there's alot of laws from laws now, nannyism!"

The laws mentioned in the OP were mostly nanny laws.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Seatbelts save lives. Who cares? Smoking bans are proven effective ways of improving the health of the community, it's been shown countless times. Trans fats are useless and unhealthy and do little to nothing to improving the taste of any food, so what harm does this do? Texting while driving has been shown to be as dangerous, or moreso, than drunk driving, so it makes sense to pass laws against it.

All irrelevant points.

Some people don't need laws to tell them eating fast food garbage every day is bad for them. How would you like it if the government put you on a diet?

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No, they are nanny laws because they deprive individuals of personal freedom to make their own decisions and hand it over to the state, as if handing over a child to a nanny.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

It's not "irrelevant" to talk about the reasoning and effectiveness of the laws. This is precisely the point I was making with you and what I got a ton of "oh how dare you"s over. You don't CARE if they're good laws or not, because they're just laws, and you hate them for that and that alone.

The use of force against others is unacceptable.

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And I don't care that you have a clear conflict of interest when it comes to the existence of the state.

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Freedom to not be hauled off to be locked in a government cage for violating arbitrary government nanny laws.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

It's not "irrelevant" to talk about the reasoning and effectiveness of the laws. This is precisely the point I was making with you and what I got a ton of "oh how dare you"s over. You don't CARE if they're good laws or not, because they're just laws, and you hate them for that and that alone.

The use of force against others is unacceptable.

And if this is your philosophy even in the face of such things, fine. But I think it should be spelled out for all to see, that you don't care about the effectiveness of laws or not, only that they are, in the end, laws.

And this is, by the way, EXACTLY what I said in my first post that ended up getting a bunch of feign outrage.

I am opposed to using violence against other human beings, yes.