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Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl
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« on: December 05, 2009, 06:45:02 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2009, 08:02:31 PM »
« Edited: December 27, 2009, 04:16:07 PM by Libertas »

Lysander Spooner
Friedrich von Hayek
Ludwig von Mises
Murray Rothbard
Ron Paul
H.L. Mencken
Noam Chomsky
G.K. Chesterton
Hilaire Belloc
Lord Acton
Henry Edward Manning
Dorothy Day
Leo Tolstoy
Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn
Hans-Hermann Hoppe
Karl von Habsburg
Parmenides
Nicias
Juvenal
Numa Pompilius
Robert A. Taft
Eugene McCarthy
George S. McGovern
Mike Gravel
Mark Hatfield
Alfred E. Smith
Pierre Joseph Proudhon
Henry David Thoreau
Frederic Bastiat
Henry Hazlitt
Lew Rockwell
Walter Block
Pope Leo XIII
Pope St. Pius X
Pope Pius XI
Rev. Charles Coughlin
Tertullian
E. F. Schumacher
Thomas Woods

No particular order, btw. Obviously some influenced in ways different from others.
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2009, 08:21:08 PM »

The Chesterbelloc? O.K... now I'm surprised.

A good addition to every papist education;)  I like elements of both.  Oddly enough in my conservative Catholic high school they never had us read either.  Required reading was Man Search for Meaning by Frankel- which I still think is excellent to this day.
Why would a modern "Catholic" high school include real Catholic writers like Chesterton and Belloc?

Coincidentally Frankl was 'required' reading for me too at a "Catholic" high school in NYC. Not that I actually read it.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2009, 08:46:54 PM »

I temporarily attended a Catholic high school and we didn't have any theological requirements.

What would be the point then? 



Not going to public school.

Minorities?

If you are implying that I avoid public schools due to racism or xenophobia, that is incorrect. I am Hispanic. But besides that, the public school in my area was about 80% white anyways. It's really just a better opportunity to get an education, seeing as public schools are mere indoctrination with government propaganda.
Public schools in California are 80% white?

What made you return to public school?
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2009, 09:10:17 PM »

I temporarily attended a Catholic high school and we didn't have any theological requirements.

What would be the point then? 



Not going to public school.

Minorities?

If you are implying that I avoid public schools due to racism or xenophobia, that is incorrect. I am Hispanic. But besides that, the public school in my area was about 80% white anyways. It's really just a better opportunity to get an education, seeing as public schools are mere indoctrination with government propaganda.
Public schools in California are 80% white?

What made you return to public school?

It depends on where you live but there are some high schools in my city that were 20% white and others that were 90% white, varying by neighborhood.
Do those figures include white Hispanics?

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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2009, 09:12:12 PM »

The Chesterbelloc? O.K... now I'm surprised.

A good addition to every papist education;)  I like elements of both.  Oddly enough in my conservative Catholic high school they never had us read either.  Required reading was Man Search for Meaning by Frankel- which I still think is excellent to this day.
Why would a modern "Catholic" high school include real Catholic writers like Chesterton and Belloc?

Coincidentally Frankl was 'required' reading for me too at a "Catholic" high school in NYC. Not that I actually read it.

My high school was quite conservative and by no means modern.  They made the national news by canceling the Prom for being a materialistic bacchanalian.
Being socially "conservative" in the vein of Evangelical Protestants doesn't correlate with Catholic orthodoxy.

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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2009, 09:29:01 PM »

The Chesterbelloc? O.K... now I'm surprised.

A good addition to every papist education;)  I like elements of both.  Oddly enough in my conservative Catholic high school they never had us read either.  Required reading was Man Search for Meaning by Frankel- which I still think is excellent to this day.
Why would a modern "Catholic" high school include real Catholic writers like Chesterton and Belloc?

Coincidentally Frankl was 'required' reading for me too at a "Catholic" high school in NYC. Not that I actually read it.

My high school was quite conservative and by no means modern.  They made the national news by canceling the Prom for being a materialistic bacchanalian.
Being socially "conservative" in the vein of Evangelical Protestants doesn't correlate with Catholic orthodoxy.



It was more of a pre Vatican II type conservatism.  Anti Jesuits if you will Smiley I went to a Dominican college and they were quite different as a community but not in theology.
My high school order was the Marianist who run Chaminade, Kellenberg (where I went) and Dayton U.

Unless you went to a SSPX school, I doubt that. 'Conservative Catholics' support Vatican II.

Jesuits are only Catholic in a very loose definition of the word....
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2009, 10:24:19 PM »

Ha, you really dont allow for any rhetorical flair or overstatement do you?  Yes, they accepted Vatican II but were conservative- much more conservative than the diocesan schools for sure. As orders go, their province at least was on the right of the spectrum. There were some brilliant  priests and brothers but also some who were hiding out, imo.

My educational influences are decidedly the "Western Canon".  Any Eastern influences are from independent reading.

Rhetorical flair? What part?

I've been at Jesuit institutions for the past five years, so I can't really comment on other orders. But conservatives do tend to love Vatican II.

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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2009, 11:02:12 PM »

Ha, you really dont allow for any rhetorical flair or overstatement do you?  Yes, they accepted Vatican II but were conservative- much more conservative than the diocesan schools for sure. As orders go, their province at least was on the right of the spectrum. There were some brilliant  priests and brothers but also some who were hiding out, imo.

My educational influences are decidedly the "Western Canon".  Any Eastern influences are from independent reading.

Rhetorical flair? What part?

I've been at Jesuit institutions for the past five years, so I can't really comment on other orders. But conservatives do tend to love Vatican II.



You mentioned Evangelical conservatism- which was not a basis for their thought.  It was more based on traditional Catholic teachings prior to and continuing to this day. My mention of Pre- Vatican II was meant as a rhetorical device to make that point.  Although, I suspect that some preferred the "Latin" mass. 
As a traditionalist Catholic, I've experienced quite well the way "conservative" Catholics worship Vatican II and John Paul II, while "liberal" Catholics oppose them for the opposite reasons that I do.

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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2009, 01:37:14 AM »

Jesus Christ
Jack Kemp
Konrad Adenauer
Theodore Roosevelt
Abraham Lincoln
Winston Churchill
Winfield Dunn
Lamar Alexander
Alan Simpson
David Cameron
George H.W. Bush
George W. Bush
Newt Gingrich
Howard Baker
(and Rush Limbaugh when I was growing up)

Where's Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Elliott Abrams, Bill Kristol?
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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2009, 01:58:53 AM »

Jesus Christ
Jack Kemp
Konrad Adenauer
Theodore Roosevelt
Abraham Lincoln
Winston Churchill
Winfield Dunn
Lamar Alexander
Alan Simpson
David Cameron
George H.W. Bush
George W. Bush
Newt Gingrich
Howard Baker
(and Rush Limbaugh when I was growing up)

Where's Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Elliott Abrams, Bill Kristol?

Meh, I'm conflicted on Cheney.
Honestly don't know who Feith and Abrams are.  Love Bill Kristol though Smiley

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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2010, 05:45:16 PM »
« Edited: April 17, 2010, 06:45:03 PM by Reactionary Radical »

Lysander Spooner
Friedrich von Hayek
Ludwig von Mises
Murray Rothbard
Ron Paul
Pat Buchanan
Andrew Napolitano
H.L. Mencken
Noam Chomsky
G.K. Chesterton
Cecil Chesterton
Hilaire Belloc
Lord Acton
Henry Edward Manning
Dorothy Day
Peter Maurin
Leo Tolstoy
Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn
Hans-Hermann Hoppe
Karl von Habsburg
Parmenides
Nicias
Juvenal
Numa Pompilius
Robert A. Taft
Eugene J. McCarthy
George S. McGovern
Barry M. Goldwater
Mike Gravel
Wayne Morse
Mark O. Hatfield
Robert La Follette
William Graham Sumner
Jeannette Rankin
Alfred E. Smith
R. Sargent Shriver
Pierre Joseph Proudhon
Henry David Thoreau
Frederic Bastiat
Jean-Baptiste Say
Henry Hazlitt
Lew Rockwell
Walter Block
Pope Pius IX
Pope Leo XIII
Pope St. Pius X
Pope Pius XI
Pope Pius XII
Rev. Charles Coughlin
Rev. Denis Fahey
Tertullian
Alex Jones
Mother Jones
E. F. Schumacher
Arthur Penty
Kirkpatrick Sale
Howard Zinn
Thomas Naylor
Thomas Woods
Thomas DiLorenzo
Bill Kauffman
Jesse Ventura
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