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FallenMorgan
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« on: June 08, 2010, 12:05:38 AM »

BUT ITS GAWDS CHOSIN LAND!!!!
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2010, 12:10:32 AM »


BUT DA BIBBLE SAYS GAWD CHOSE ISRUL.
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2010, 01:16:01 PM »

It raises a valid point though.  Americans are being encouraged to take sides on an issue that has very limited relevance to our lives.

The same can be said of most other realms of America's modern foreign policy.
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2010, 10:58:29 PM »
« Edited: June 08, 2010, 11:00:26 PM by Governor Morgan Brykein »


What does that have to do with anything?  Just because two percent of the American population is Jewish, we should waste billions of taxpayer dollars on Israel?  Instead of lobbying, these Jewish groups should just donate their money to Israel, instead of "donating" everyone else's money.

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Which was seventy years ago.

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Which shouldn't even exist.

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Irrelevant.  There are a lot of democratic states in the world.  We don't have to nanny them.

Also, you don't have to be a libertarian to believe that taxpayer dollars should be used for the benefit of those who payed them.
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2010, 01:35:56 PM »
« Edited: June 09, 2010, 01:42:15 PM by Governor Morgan Brykein »

I care about establishing a stable and fair peace everywhere in the world. That's why I care about Israel, just as I care about Darfur, about Kurdistan, about Kashmir, about Rwanda. Those who don't care are either selfish or coward.

Some people have other things to worry about, besides establishing peace everywhere in the world.  And some of those people actually want the money they pay to the government to go back to them in some way.  To call that selfish is to say it's selfish for me to not give my entire paycheck (if I had one) to charity every week.  The United States is deeply in debt, yet we're spending billions on foreign countries that have nothing to do with the wellbeing of the American people.

What's "selfish" is to spend everyone else's money on such things, as those who lobby for American internationalism seek to do.  Those who do care about Darfur or Kurdistan or whatever should form some kind of NGO to solve the problem, an International Brigade or something.  I'm sure they could raise billions through voluntary contributions.  You know, international charities get a lot more voluntary donations in the United States, than what the U.S. government sends out in foreign aid every year.
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2010, 05:52:39 PM »

NGOs aren't able to solve any problem. At best they manage to prevent them from having too disastrous consequences, but the jus lack the power to impose peace anywhere. Being the most powerful country in the Earth gives you some responsibility (not to say US should do everything alone, I also think European countries aren't involving in those problems as much as they should).

The only responsibility the U.S. government has is to the American people.
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2010, 11:26:33 PM »

I wish Israel would take over the middle east to be honest. It would be alot safer for America.

It would be a lot safer for America if we didn't support them at all.
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2010, 01:29:47 PM »
« Edited: June 11, 2010, 01:33:23 PM by Governor Morgan Brykein »

Any good citizen should care about the issues that matter to his country.

Citizens should care about issues that matter to themselves, and that should reflect itself in their government.  The U.S. government wasting time and money on this Israel bullsh-t, and forcing Americans to take a side on the issue, is not good government at all.

Our support for Israel is a threat to the American people.  Had we not backed Israel, there would probably have been no 9/11.
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2010, 10:09:00 AM »

And for those of you who don't support Israel, you will be on the wrong side of history just like the Germans were on the wrong side of history in WWII. You may want to join before it's too late.

I'm sure those who support Israel will still be on the "right" side of history when that country starts World War III and drags us into it.
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2010, 01:05:15 AM »

And for those of you who don't support Israel, you will be on the wrong side of history just like the Germans were on the wrong side of history in WWII. You may want to join before it's too late.

I'm sure those who support Israel will still be on the "right" side of history when that country starts World War III and drags us into it.

Right cuz we'll win.

At what cost?
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2010, 02:34:42 PM »

And for those of you who don't support Israel, you will be on the wrong side of history just like the Germans were on the wrong side of history in WWII. You may want to join before it's too late.

I'm sure those who support Israel will still be on the "right" side of history when that country starts World War III and drags us into it.

Right cuz we'll win.

At what cost?

You lefties are all the same. You always have to rain on the conservative victory parade.

We can't do that.
Well at what cost?

Geez negative Nancy

A World War III started by Israel would probably be nothing the American people have any stake in.  Getting involved would only cost thousands of American lives and billions of American taxpayer dollars.
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