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Harry
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« on: November 18, 2007, 07:48:43 PM »

Ok Harry you want to fix schools? The answer is simple: drop the department of education, drop no child left behind, drop teaching to the test as part of a 5 part strategy of radical reform. The second part of this involves moving to a german-type educational style with vocational education/apprenticeship for those who want it. Thirdly, set up more charter schools plus regulating private schools to prevent them from discriminating based on factors besides ability to get in(if we allow vouchers at all). Fourthly place enough regulations on homeschooling to keep out things like mixing Jesus and actual education. These regulations would more or less kill homeschooling except for a very few lefties doing it. Lastly pay teachers more than chickenfeed AND cut down on job security/union protections(to prevent idiots from not being fired).


All 5 of those points are fantastic, except that homeschooling should be completely disallowed, except in rare special cases (the child has an unusual disability or something).
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2007, 11:40:57 PM »

Ok Harry you want to fix schools? The answer is simple: drop the department of education, drop no child left behind, drop teaching to the test as part of a 5 part strategy of radical reform. The second part of this involves moving to a german-type educational style with vocational education/apprenticeship for those who want it. Thirdly, set up more charter schools plus regulating private schools to prevent them from discriminating based on factors besides ability to get in(if we allow vouchers at all). Fourthly place enough regulations on homeschooling to keep out things like mixing Jesus and actual education. These regulations would more or less kill homeschooling except for a very few lefties doing it. Lastly pay teachers more than chickenfeed AND cut down on job security/union protections(to prevent idiots from not being fired).


All 5 of those points are fantastic, except that homeschooling should be completely disallowed, except in rare special cases (the child has an unusual disability or something).

What's wrong w/ homeschooling if they can fit into a college perfectly well?
There's no way a single person is qualified to teach all those subjects.  Even if they bring in all sorts of different teachers, it still prevents people from getting social education and learning to live in the world.
That's another drawback of private schools in the South...whites with racist parents who send them to private school get to college/workforce and have never interacted with blacks before, and it's a big culture shock to them.  Integrating the schools will help cut done on this.


Also, for the record, I don't agree with abolishing the Dept. of Education either.
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Harry
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2007, 02:11:18 PM »


There's no way a single person is qualified to teach all those subjects.  Even if they bring in all sorts of different teachers, it still prevents people from getting social education and learning to live in the world.


Plenty of ways to learn social skills: church, youth sports, scouting, interacting with other home schooled kids, even going outside to play with other neighborhood kids after they come home from school.  Nah, strike that last one.  I don't think kids just go outside to have unstructured fun anymore. Sad
They can do all of those things, but they won't get nearly the amount of time they will in public school.  Also, in all of your ways, they will only interact with kids their parents want them to interact with, while at public school they'll have a chance to interact with kids their parents may be bigoted against.
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