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« on: December 02, 2020, 08:06:17 PM »

As others have said, that this used to be Ellen Paige is the story here, so there's no way to talk about it and not mention that. It's not like this is some random reference to a high profile trans person and the old name is being dropped in for no reason.

Yeah all this pearl-clutching over "deadnaming" is ridiculous. It would be like never mentioning that Caitlyn Jenner used to be called Bruce Jenner when covering that story. Especially when it's a new development, you just can't expect people to forget what the person used to be called overnight. It takes some time to get used to a change like that. Also there's something weirdly revisionist about saying something like "Caitlyn Jenner won the men's decathalon when she was 25, then she posed for Playgirl magazine." Like obviously when that stuff happened, everyone knew "her" as a man named Bruce, so it's just odd to read stuff like that. Nothing wrong with referring to someone the way they want to be called from now on, but you can't change the past.

Agreed. There was a big Wikipedia controversy a while ago over which name should be listed on this page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletics_at_the_1976_Summer_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_decathlon

I think it's pretty obvious Wikipedia got it right. Jenner was known as Bruce then, and that's what the article should say. It's equivalent to this other page Wikipedia gets right, referring to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar as Lew Alcindor, as that was his name at the time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_NCAA_Men%27s_Basketball_All-Americans
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2020, 01:24:20 PM »

Stopping in to remind everyone that Juno is one of the worst films ever conceived by a human and every copy of it should be destroyed.
I only saw it in theaters when it came out and barely remember it. I do remember it being slightly disappointing, but I was 18 then and I wasn't a good amateur film critic back then. My main problem if I recall was the script.

Yes. It's a nonstop upchuck of terrible puns, cutesy wordplay, and witless one-liners. It's as though someone tried to write a script using nothing but Tumblr-isms.

But puns and wordplay are the best types of humor.
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