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Harry
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« on: October 14, 2020, 12:58:00 PM »

This is exactly why the GOP needs to hold the Senate so we can stop you guys from doing this. You guys obviously just like Trump are against our institutions so yah if you wanna know why Im writing someone in , this is the reason because I will never vote for a candidate that will court pack 

You aren't writing anybody in. You've been desperate to for an excuse to vote for Trump all year, and now you've contrived one.
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2020, 01:02:09 PM »

This is exactly why the GOP needs to hold the Senate so we can stop you guys from doing this. You guys obviously just like Trump are against our institutions so yah if you wanna know why Im writing someone in , this is the reason because I will never vote for a candidate that will court pack 

You aren't writing anybody in. You've been desperate to for an excuse to vote for Trump all year, and now you've contrived one.

I am NOT gonna vote for Trump and that is final.

You've already said you will if Democrats "pack the Court" (which you've redefined to include merely reversing the Republican pack to get us back to R+1).
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2020, 01:18:36 PM »

This is exactly why the GOP needs to hold the Senate so we can stop you guys from doing this. You guys obviously just like Trump are against our institutions so yah if you wanna know why Im writing someone in , this is the reason because I will never vote for a candidate that will court pack 

You aren't writing anybody in. You've been desperate to for an excuse to vote for Trump all year, and now you've contrived one.

I am NOT gonna vote for Trump and that is final.

You've already said you will if Democrats "pack the Court" (which you've redefined to include merely reversing the Republican pack to get us back to R+1).


Harry he lives in OR, it doesn't matter the EC votes are going to Biden

Believe me, I understand better than most people here how the Electoral College silences the voices of millions of Americans who live in "safe" states.
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2020, 01:19:57 PM »

This is exactly why the GOP needs to hold the Senate so we can stop you guys from doing this. You guys obviously just like Trump are against our institutions so yah if you wanna know why Im writing someone in , this is the reason because I will never vote for a candidate that will court pack  

You aren't writing anybody in. You've been desperate to for an excuse to vote for Trump all year, and now you've contrived one.

I am NOT gonna vote for Trump and that is final.

You've already said you will if Democrats "pack the Court" (which you've redefined to include merely reversing the Republican pack to get us back to R+1).

That was before Trump pissed me off with his behavior again and I decided that I just couldn't vote for Trump so Im gonna write some one in

Well, we shall see...
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2020, 02:22:43 PM »

The courts are already packed. Trump and McConnell openly brag about it.
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Republicans replacing Scalia and Ginsburg in a single term is packing, period.

No one is truly against packing if they don't consider that as at least equally bad as Biden adding 2 more justices, and they really should consider it worse, as Biden is only doing it in response.
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2020, 02:45:37 PM »
« Edited: October 14, 2020, 03:06:27 PM by 2,868,686 »

The courts are already packed. Trump and McConnell openly brag about it.
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Republicans replacing Scalia and Ginsburg in a single term is packing, period.

No one is truly against packing if they don't consider that as at least equally bad as Biden adding 2 more justices, and they really should consider it worse, as Biden is only doing it in response.
This is rank inability to define "packing" properly. It is one of two things: expanding the size of the court and filling all or most of the new seats with people sympathetic to you, or impeaching some or all of the justices sympathetic to your opponents and filling the vacancies with a group that is mostly favorable to you instead, in an effort to change its alliegence.
Rs have done neither. They haven't packed the courts.


They refused to let Obama fill a seat with anyone, citing a phony precedent, then when they were in that situation, they did [or presumably will] fill the seat. That's a pack, and it takes a lot of spin and contriving to argue otherwise.
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2020, 07:30:08 AM »

It's beyond laughable to claim that Gorsuch being placed on SCOTUS and Kav being placed on SCOTUS is court-packing, unless you happen to be a particular kind of Democratic partisan. Words have meaning.
This sort of behavior from Dems, if repeated regularly, would ruin America even more than Mitch could hope to do, which is a tall order that somehow is surpassed by this sort of stuff.

No one ever mentioned Kavanaugh, but nice strawman anyway.

Trump replacing BOTH Scalia and Ginsburg is packing. If he'd only replaced 1, either 1, it wouldn't be packing, but replacing both is packing.
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2020, 11:37:42 AM »

The courts are already packed. Trump and McConnell openly brag about it.
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Republicans replacing Scalia and Ginsburg in a single term is packing, period.

No one is truly against packing if they don't consider that as at least equally bad as Biden adding 2 more justices, and they really should consider it worse, as Biden is only doing it in response.
This is rank inability to define "packing" properly. It is one of two things: expanding the size of the court and filling all or most of the new seats with people sympathetic to you, or impeaching some or all of the justices sympathetic to your opponents and filling the vacancies with a group that is mostly favorable to you instead, in an effort to change its alliegence.
Rs have done neither. They haven't packed the courts.


They refused to let Obama fill a seat with anyone, citing a phony precedent, then when they were in that situation, they did [or presumably will] fill the seat. That's a pack, and it takes a lot of spin and contriving to argue otherwise.

No, that is the Senate's constitutional role to advise and consent to the president's nominees.  Elections have consequences. 

No one has ever said Court packing is illegal, just that it was against the previous norms.

Democrats didn't treat Reagan and GWHB like McConnell treated Obama, and now we're living with the consequences.
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