State abortion laws megathread

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Under this law a woman who miscarries could be liable for second-degree murder, she could be imprisoned for 30 years.

What?

There's a lot of wild speculation going on here about how this bill would be applied.

Well, the statutes would be there if the county DA's want to make use of them.  

Which statutes?

I just meant that if laws are on the books then they give the local DA's the power to charge people with crimes with the potential penalties specified in the law.  Reading about this it sounds like this law has 10 years for conspiracy to leave state to get abortion, 2nd degree murder for self-induced abortion, and 1st for abortions in other circumstances, so DA's have the discretion to file these charges if they so choose.  Am I missing something?

Here's the bill: https://www.legislature.ohio.gov/legislation/legislation-summary?id=GA133-SB-23

I don't see anything there about charging anyone with murder or conspiracy.  As far as I can tell this analysis relies on the idea that because it defines an unborn child as a person, then there would be certain penalties that go along with that. So it's making a lot of assumptions.

Don't be thick. The police would always investigate any death of a child, so if a fetus is legally considered to be a person will full rights, the police would have to investigate any time a fetus died as well.

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If Kavanaugh is the deciding vote to keep abortion legal, is it the greatest irony in American history?

Note: I'm assuming this question is moot since I don't see Roberts or Gorsuch overturning it either, but it's a fun hypothetical.

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So would my position on the issue be considered pro-choice or pro-life:


I believe it should be legal in the first trimester, the second trimester should be decided by the states and third trimester should be banned federally

Pro choice? You could get away with that position in a Democratic primary anywhere (assuming the standard non-viability and life of the mother exceptions for 3rd trimester), but would have a lot of difficulty winning a Republican primary in any red state.

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The only legitimate reason for the state to act to prevent abortion is the sincere belief that it is protecting a human life. While I favor allowing abortion in the first trimester, once whenever the limit is set I believe there should be no exceptions for rape or incest as they do not affect whether the fetus is now a human life.

I pretty much agree with this. Making exceptions for rape/incest doesn't really square logically with the argument that a fetus is a person, and if a fetus is not a person, it should not be illegal at all.

I think the 3-month mark is too early of a cutoff, but I would support a hypothetical cutoff somewhere (5 months? 6 months? I'll defer to experts on this one) with the only exceptions afterward being fetal abnormalities and life of the mother. So basically status quo is good with me, maybe with some federal law penalizing states for passing bans they know will never be allowed to go into effect.

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Don't they realize that Alabamans who support this law will LIKE the fact that liberal states are "boycotting" them?