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« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2004, 09:24:55 PM »

Sorry I couldn't complete the decade, but I have a 7 AM flight to DC tomorrow morning, which means I have to get up at about 4:30ish, but I'll complete it as soon as possible when i get back.
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« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2004, 10:18:29 PM »

1976, part II:
Election night!:  Reagan and Carter both know the election will be very close, probably within a couple million popular votes and 20 or less electoral votes.  
Reagan can’t be upset with the early results, winning most of the Pacific Rim, and then splitting Europe with Carter.  In the end, Reagan squeaks out a win by the narrowest of margins.  JFK must be kicking himself for letting the Italian states in, which gave Reagan the margin for victory.


1977—Reagan is inaugurated as president.  In his inauguration, he promises to be stringent on the communist nations of USSR, China, Iceland, and India.
Gabon and Namibia are granted statehood.
John Rockefeller III receives the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts to improve Equatorial Africa.  Reagan begins upping nuclear arms and sets off a race with the Communist nations.
The Supreme Court legalizes abortion across America, to the dismay of the Republican Party and much of Southern Europe and Latin America.  Pope Paul VI {now residing on American soil} condemns the decision.  Reagan calls for a constitutional amendment banning abortion [AAA].  At the same time, more liberal members of Congress propose the Equal Rights Amendment [ERA], and an amendment banning capital punishment is put forward [DPA].  Another amendment revamping presidential succession [PSA] to go VP-Speaker of House-PPT Senate-Sec State-AG . . . . is also proposed.  In December, and amendment lowering the voting age to 18 [18A] is proposed, making 1977 the “Year of Amendments.”

1978—With Reagan’s endorsement, 18A passes.  Another amendment is proposed, banning poll tax [PTA], which passes by the end of the year, as the 22nd amendment.  The DPA and AAA are grouped together by an ingenious congressman, calling it the “Life Amendment.”  After much deliberation, the Life Amendment passes in November.
To Hatta’s extreme happiness, Indonesian statehood begins with the admittance of Sumatra and Aceh.
In a little-precedented move, John F. Kennedy is elected back into the House of Representatives in Massachusetts.  The Progressives don’t hold a majority, but he is made minority leader.

1979—Borneo and New Guinea are granted statehood.  Mohammad Hatta dies in Jakarta in February, elated that his dream has finally come true.  Iceland, India, China, and USSR sign the Leningrad Pact, each promising forever loyalty.
In Atlantica, Prince Charles {British} marries Princess Maria {French/Spanish} to unite the houses of Atlantica.  The monarch does have limited power, though most of it is in parliament.  The ERA finally passes through Congress, but is not ratified by too many states.  
The 24th amendment, the PSA passes.  Communist forces take over Afghanistan.

1980—The Progressives enter the election year with high hopes.  Reagan’s presidency hasn’t turned out that great.  The only major contender for the party’s nomination is Malcolm Fraser of Victoria.  He chooses Walter Mondale of  MN for his running mate.  The Republican and American Parties overwhelmingly renominate Reagan/Clark.  His supporters are positive that he will be reelected.
Celebes and Timor are admitted as states in time to vote in the upcoming election, leaving only the island of Java without Indonesian statehood.
Fraser and Reagan debate several times, and Fraser leads in the polls, but after Communist forces are forced out of Afghanistan, Reagan squeaks reelection out barely, losing in the popular vote 49-48.

At the same time, the Progressives retake the House, and former president Kennedy is made Speaker of the House.

1981—Reagan is inaugurated in his second term.  Then, on March 29, Reagan himself is shot by John Hinckley, and dies shortly thereafter, shocking the nation.  Joe Clark ascends to the presidency, and decides to wait until after Reagan’s funeral to name a vice-president.  Then, shockingly, President Clark himself is assassinated by a Communist sympathizer in Maryland on April 3.  The new 24th amendment dictates that Speaker Kennedy ascend to the presidency.  President Kennedy addresses the nation on the unfortunate events that have occurred, and promises to do his best to serve the nation and honor the now-deceased presidents.  Kennedy makes a surprising move and picks JMG Adams of Barbados as his new vice president.
Java is divided into three states:  West Java, Central Java, and East Java.

1982—The nation wakes up on January 19 to even more shocking news:  President Kennedy has been found dead, due to his bad back and other health problems.  The little-known JMG Adams is now president of the United States, and he nominates Gro Harlem Brundtland as his VP, making her the first woman to hold that position.
TO BE CONTINUED



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« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2004, 10:19:24 PM »

btw, A list of 20th century presidents until 1982:
25. Theodore Roosevelt, 1894-1905, Pop/Prog
26. William Taft, 1905-1909, Prog
27. Theodore Roosevelt, 1909-1913 Prog
28. Hiram Johnson, 1913-1914, Prog—retires after being permanently dismembered in a train wreck
29. Thomas Marshall, 1914-1915, Prog—captured by terrorists and presumed dead
30. Woodrow Wilson, 1915-1917, Prog
31. Robert Borden, 1917-1929, Cons
32. Herbert Hoover, 1929-1933, Cons
33. Theodore Roosevelt, 1933-1937, Prog
34. Franklin Roosevelt, 1937-1945, Prog—dies in office
35. William L. Mackenzie King, 1945-1949, Prog
36. Harry Truman, 1949-1953, Prog
37. Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1953-1961, Prog
38. Richard Nixon, 1961-1963, R—assassinated in Dallas by Lee Harvey Oswald
39. Gustavo Diaz Ordaz, 1963-1969, R
40. John F. Kennedy, 1969-1977, Prog
41. Ronald Reagan, 1977-1981, R—assassinated by John Hinckley shortly after beginning second term
42. Joe Clark, 1981, R—assassinated by Communist sympathizer shortly after becoming president
43. John F. Kennedy, 1981-1982, Prog—dies in office
44. JMG Adams, 1982-, Prog

and constitutional amendments:
1-10. Bill of Rights
11. Suits against States
12. Electors
13. Abolishment of Slavery
14. Former Slaves Are Citizens
15. Former Slaves Have Right to Vote
16. Presidential Succession
17. Direct Election of Senators
18. Income Tax
19. Women’s Suffrage
20. American Territory
21. Voting Age Lowered to 18
22. No Poll Tax
23. No Abortion or Death Penalty
24. Presidential Succession {revamped}
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« Reply #53 on: June 11, 2004, 09:39:49 AM »

Why is the Pope now residing on American soil? Did the Vatican become part of the USA?

Interesting development with JFK there.

It's not indepedent; it's just an area of Rome that the US government ignores and lets it do its own thing, but it is offically part of the USA and the state of Roma.
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« Reply #54 on: June 11, 2004, 09:44:34 AM »

Why is the Pope now residing on American soil? Did the Vatican become part of the USA?

Interesting development with JFK there.

It's not indepedent; it's just an area of Rome that the US government ignores and lets it do its own thing, but it is offically part of the USA and the state of Roma.

Vatican is a separate nation.

In OTL, that became official in 1929 with a treaty with Musolini.

But in this TL, Musolini never came to power, and so treaty was signed, and Vatican City is part of the US now.
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« Reply #55 on: June 17, 2004, 03:49:01 PM »

since I recently got my wisdom teeth out, i haven't felt like working on this, but pretty soon i'm gonna post the remainder of the 1980's
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« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2004, 10:22:44 PM »

I'm gonna try to put up the next part by Saturday
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« Reply #57 on: June 25, 2004, 10:59:53 PM »

Well, I'm ready to post the next installment, but freewebs is down . . . I'll wait until tomorrow morning I guess.
I have changed the title because after I update through 1991, this timeline will be complete.
However, a new timeline, ERA TWO, will begin on another thread--kinda like a sequel to a movie.  So once I post through 1991, ERA ONE: The Ascent to Domination will be complete.
In the week following I'll post some follow-up maps and charts with some statistics.
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« Reply #58 on: June 26, 2004, 09:09:01 AM »

1982, continued—JMG Adams, a year little known outside the Caribbean, now finds himself president of the United States.  He inherits a shaky position, as Iceland, USSR, China, and India seemed to have aligned against the US.  To help ease some tempers, he promises not to seek reelection.
In July, the Leningrad Pact expands to include Arabia, Turkey, Persia, and the USAR.  Adams offers annexation to Bangladesh, Pakistan, and the UAR if they want it.  Bangladesh accepts, and Montenegro and Albania also apply for annexation.  The District of Korea is divided into the states of North Korea and South Korea.

1983—The Leningrad Pact begins placing troops on the borders of Austria-Hungary, and submarines near the islands of Atlantica.  President Adams warns them that an attack on any free nation will be considered an attack on the United States.  The nations of the LP member what happen to Quito and New Delhi during the last war, but it is widely speculated that they have nuclear weapons of their own.  Some extremist members of the American Party support a preemptive nuclear strike on all LP nations, but luckily they are paid no heed.
Luzon, Visayas, and Mindanao are granted statehood.
As Soviet tanks seem poised to enter A-H, a new election takes place there, and the people overwhelmingly back the candidate who supports annexation to the US.  In November, a treaty is signed that puts makes Austria-Hungary a part of the US.  Greece and Switerzerland decline annexation for now, though pundits believe it’s only a matter of time until they are annexed.

1984—President Adams keeps to his promise of not running for reelection, but that does not mean he’s inactive.  He attends the Bern Conference in February, which is attended by both the Leningrad Pact and the free countries—US, Argentina, Atlantica, Greece, UAR, Pakistan—to negotiate weapons reductions and promote better relations.
An uprising begins in Iceland, as the IDA {Icelandic Democratic Army} burns the Capitol to the ground, and begins demanding a freely elected government.  IDA partisans on Svalbard announce they’re joining the US state of Norway, and the outnumbered Icelandic Communist government can do nothing to stop them.  In Greenland, a similar rebellion occurs and asks for annexation to the US as a district.  The premier of Iceland is assassinated, and most of the government held hostage.  A deranged air force captain takes up Iceland’s sole nuclear weapon and threatens to use it.  The Leningrad Pact promptly expels Iceland and takes no responsibility for anything that happens, and the Icelandic delegation leaves the Bern Conference.  Icelandic rebels raise an American flag and formally ask for annexation.  The deranged captain takes off and heads out into the Atlantic with his nuclear weapon, and heads for Hamilton, the capital of Atlantic, and now booming metropolis of 15 million people.  Luckily, an Atlantican navy ship is able to shoot him down, destroying the weapon.
Guinea and Mozambique are granted statehood.  Iceland is granted districthood, as is Greenland.
A presidential race is going on all this time:
VP Gro Harlem Brundtland easily secures the Democratic nomination following JMG Adams’ decision not to run for reelection.  She chooses MN Senator Walter Mondale as her running mate, which will be his second try for the vice-presidency.  The Republican/American coalition falls apart without Ronald Reagan, and the American Party decides to nominate Jesse Helms of NC for president and surprisingly, Pat Robertson for VP.  The Republicans finally nominate Margaret Thatcher for president and George Bush of TX for VP.  This is the first time in American history that a woman has been the nominee for president, let alone two women.  The American Party begins the slogan “Helms—He’s the man!” and obviously means more than what it would seem.  Helms, Brudntland, and Thatcher debate evenly, and election day comes uncertainly.
On Election Day the vote is split B. 38%, T. 36%, H. 25%, and no one receives a majority in the electoral college.  Then, Helms surprisingly instructs all of his electors to vote Thatcher/Bush, which gives her a majority, and she wins.

The Bern Conference makes some progress, but will continue into the next year.  Margaret Thatcher reappoints JMG Adams to his post as chief American ambassador to the conference.

1985—President Thatcher is inaugurated as the 45th president, and the 1st woman president.  She promises to be tough on the nations of the Leningrad Pact.
The district of Manchuria is divided into 4 states:  Heilongjiang, Jilin, Liaoning, and Outer Manchuria.
Persia, Arabia, and Turkey—all Communist countries—decide that they will eliminate the Democratic government of the UAR.  They quickly invade the UAR and remove its government from power, putting in their puppet.  The free world is horrified by this turn of events.  Pakistan declares war on Persia, Turkey, and Arabia, and do the Trucial States, or as they now prefer to be called, the United Arab Emirates.
JMG Adams puts enough pressure on the USSR at the Bern Conference to force them to kick them out of the Leningrad Pact—which now stands at four members:  USSR, USAR, India, and China.
Arabian soldiers pour into the UAE and annihilate it, burning Abu Dhabi to the ground, and annexing it.  Persia enters the neutral Afghanistan, wary of war, but the wily patriot Osama bin Laden, exiled from his home of Arabia forces them back temporarily, until they force their way into Afghanistan and shoot him in the streets.  Turkistan and Mongolia declare neutrality in the conflict.  Turkish troops secure the island of Cyprus {which was part of the UAR}, and head into Greece.  Greece begs the US to intervene.  President Thatcher asks Congress to declare war on Turkey, Arabia, and Persia on June 14, and Congress approves, with some grumbling from the left.  American troops from the Balkan Peninsula help push back the Turks out of Greece, and capture Istanbul by September.  Greek leaflets find their way into USSR-occupied Bulgaria, encouraging a revolt ala Iceland.  JMG Adams dies surprisingly in Bern of natural causes.  As year ends, the world seems to be in disarray:  World War IV seems to have started in the Middle East, the Bern Conference has been going on for 22 months without the expected results, and the leader of the US at the conference has unexpectedly died.
A revolt begins in Soviet Finland.  The state of Adams declares that it now represents John, John Quincy, and JMG, rather than just the first 2.

1986—Bulgaria has a massive uprising and kicks the USSR out and declares independence.  UAR nationalist Saddam Hussein leads a surprise attack on Baghdad and liberates it.  Persian troops occupy all of Afghanistan, and begin an invasion of Pakistan.  On February 24, India declares war on Pakistan.  The neutral IOC {Indian Ocean Confederation—consists of Sri Lanka, Diego Garcia, Seychelles, Mauritius, Reunion, and Comoros} announces it supports the efforts of the US, Greece, Pakistan, and Hussein’s UAR nationalists.   The USAR launches a surprise sneak attack on independent Brazil, capturing Rio de Janerio in the night.  Argentina and Atlantica declare war on the USAR the following day.  Nations call on the US to join in and declare war on the USAR and India.  Thatcher asks Congress for the declaration of war, which it grants.
Zimbabwe, Zambia, and Malawi are admitted as states—far from the fighting.
Indian troops pour into the District of Bangladesh, but are met with swift resistance.
The US Army sends troops to Bangladesh and Pakistan, and also completely liberate the UAR, with the exception of Cyprus,, installing Saddam Hussein as the temporary president.  The Finnish revolt is successful, and Finland declares independence.  Finland then asks for annexation to the US to join its Swedish and Norwegian neighbors.  This puts the US in a very awkward position, as there is currently no official hostility between the US and the USSR.  The situation is easened somewhat when the USSR announces it will retake Bulgaria and Finland by force, and also support other Communist causes with troops.  Because of this, the US declares war on the USSR, and WWIV is official on.

1987—For the second time in history, the USAR makes huge inroads into Argentina.  American troops have to bail Argentina out . . . again.  American troops reinforce Pakistan, and also enter Finland and Bulgaria.
Soviet troops are pushed out of Finland totally, but they do make gains in Bulgaria.  The USAR officially adds Brazil and northern Argentina as provinces.  American troops begin arming Indian rebels, hoping they’ll take the brunt of overthrowing the Indian government.
Tanzania and Madagascar become states.
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« Reply #59 on: June 26, 2004, 09:09:16 AM »
« Edited: July 31, 2004, 03:58:16 PM by Senator Harry »

1988—Finland is annexed and becomes a district.  Progressives begin to complain that the government under Thatcher is only admitting states from districts that voted Republican in 1984.  They reject the plan of admitting former Belgian Congo as several states.  American troops in Pendleton and Siberia begin preparing for an invasion of eastern USSR.
In the US, it is a presidential election year.  Margaret Thatcher/George Bush easily secures the Republican nomination, as many people hold her in high esteem for fighting the war, and she seems almost unbeatable.  The American is somewhat in disarray.  Many want to support President Thatcher, although many also dislike that she is not from the American continent.  Pat Robertson rises up for the American nomination, in the process drawing up his “Plan of Division,” saying that after WWIV is complete, the US will divide into 5 different nations, in North America, Latin America, Europe, Africa, and West Pacific.  He chooses Missouri governor John Ashcroft as his running mate.  The Progressives have a much wider field, including Dick Gephardt [MO], Al Gore [TN], Jesse Jackson [NY], Michael Dukakis [MA], John Turner [ON], Gary Hart [CO], Robert Mugabe [ZM], and several others.  Soon enough, Dick Gephardt is able to secure the nomination with some impressive early primary victories.  Seeing how Mugabe could bring him several central and south African states that were supposedly created just to give votes to the Republicans, Gephardt chooses Mugabe as his running mate.  Allegations arise about some of Mugabe’s discriminations as governor of the Region and later State of Zimbabwe, but as the Constitution limited him, he couldn’t do that much.  The Thatcher/Robertson/Gephardt debates are somewhat ho-hum, but the Bush/Ashcroft/Mugabe vice-presidential debates are supremely entertaining.
The government of Turkey surrenders in July.  The agree to let the European section of their country go free, but they avoid annihilation, and fate that Persia suffers when the US Army enters and destroys its government.  A free-ish government is set up in Persia, which now wishes to go by the name Iran.  India, is shockingly overcome with rebellion in September, as the populace revolts against the Communist government and replaces it with a freely elected one.
Cyprus remains a stronghold for the enemy.  Turks and Arabians, with some support from the populace, are entrenched on the island.  President Thatcher orders a full scale invasion on the island.  The first invasion, with 100,000 people fails horribly.  Thatcher falls in the polls, as Gephardt rises.  Gephardt announces his plan to make all regions with a population over 400,000 people states upon his inauguration.  “After all,” he says, “this two or three states a year thing is stupid.  Let them become states!”  The American Party rises up against this plan, with Pat Robertson being its biggest opponent.  At the debates, Thatcher can hardly get in a word edgewise and Robertson and Gephardt sling and yell at each other.  And they both slam Thatcher on her botched invasion of Cyprus.  Robertson’s and Gephardt’s numbers both shoot up after two more debates, as Thatcher’s shoot down.
On Election Night, a virtual three-way dead heat in the popular vote becomes an electoral landslide for Gephardt.

As 1988 ends, it is the first year since 1965 where no states were admitted.  

1989—Dick Gephardt is inaugurated as the nation’s 46th president.  He passes the Rapid State Admissions Act, calling for all districts with a population over 400,000 to be made states in the next few years.  Sixteen states are admitted in 1989:  Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Rockefeller (Southern Ethiopia—where John D. Rockefeller III went and transformed), Sudan, Congo, Central Africa, Chad, Egypt, Alexandria, and Sinai.  The USSR agrees to a treaty with the US.
The war in Asia wraps itself up, as Arabia surrenders and is dismantled ala Persia/Iran.  In South America it’s a different story.  The USAR now occupies Brazil {not American Brazil} and Northern Argentina.  American agents begin inciting a revolt in the capital of Lima {moved from Quito after the atomic bomb}, but no success.  President Gephardt begins planning for a full-scale invasion.  Also, there is still the Cyprus problem to worry about.  Gephardt orders heavy bombing and shelling before landing 600,000 Marines onto the island.  They do manage to get a foothold in the Southern part of the island, but not enough to liberate it all.  So more soldiers are needed, but by August, the island is under control and return to the UAR.
The sights are set on the USAR.  Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo are liberated in November, and it is projected that the USAR can be defeated within a year.

1990—American troops liberate Montevideo, with the help of the powerful Atlantican navy.  In February, they enter Buenos Aries and restore the old Argentine government to power, along with the old Brazilian one.
Japan is divided into three states:  Tokyo, Kyoto, and Sapporo.  Thailand and Burma are admitted as states.
Bangladesh is divided into six small, but heavily populated states:  Barisal, Chittagong, Dhaka, Khulna, Rajshahi, and Sylhet.  East Pacifica and West Pacifica {the collections of Pacific islands on respective sides of the IDL} are admitted as states.  Malaya becomes a state.  Fifteen states in Europe are admitted in September:  Munich, Finland, Czech, Slovakia, Austria, Hungary, Slovenia, Croatia, B-H, Montengro, Serbia, Macedonia, Albania, Romania, and Iceland.
By the year’s end, 16,000,000 American troops are fighting against the USAR, and the one year prediction has not come true.

1991—Ten new African states enter in January, bringing the full count of states to 224: Algeria, Mali, Burkina Faso, Morocco, Benin, Libya, Mauritania, Niger, Tunisia, Lagos, and Nigeria.  The Lima revolt finally happens and the USAR must devote more troops to putting it down.  American troops are able to force USAR troops totally out of Brazil and Argentina.  President Gephardt travels to liberated Belo Horizonte, Brazil, and tells the USAR premier to step down immediately.  By the end of the year, the Communist government is overthrown, and a true republic is reestablished.  Now only three Communist countries remain {USSR, Turkey, China}.  Many predict Argentina, Brazil, and USAR to join the US soon enough.
Conclusion:  World War IV is over.  Communism has been abolished in Arabia, Persia, Iceland, India, and the USAR.  The US now contains 224 states.
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« Reply #60 on: June 26, 2004, 12:25:27 PM »

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« Reply #61 on: June 26, 2004, 11:16:15 PM »

You have Gephardt defeating Thatcher!?!?  I just lost all respect for this TL.

Who cares about partisan politics in this sense? This timeline is amusing and creative, not a tool that can be bent to the wishes of various partisans.

Wow.  You took me way too seriously.

you didn't put a smiley in it Smiley
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« Reply #62 on: June 28, 2004, 09:29:49 AM »

I suppose they'd add a few more stars every year, but no one would really notice whether it's, say 169 or 171 stars on the flag anyway.
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« Reply #63 on: June 28, 2004, 02:05:58 PM »
« Edited: June 28, 2004, 02:08:54 PM by Senator Harry »

Mongolia is officially a part of the USSR, though there is not that much association.  The US pretends that a rogee pro-US group speaks for the whole nation, and that rogue group declared neutrality.



Green is the USA
Gray are other Democracies
Gold are nations in transition to Democracy
Red are Communist nations
White are non of the above
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« Reply #64 on: July 13, 2004, 04:45:54 PM »
« Edited: July 13, 2004, 04:47:03 PM by Senator Harry »

Ignore the colors, but here is a tentative 1992 map, showing all of the new states

I'll probably tweak the EV's somewhat though
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« Reply #65 on: July 15, 2004, 09:28:26 AM »
« Edited: July 31, 2004, 03:58:49 PM by Senator Harry »

Well, upon making the promised statistics, it appears there are 229 states.  Darn.  oh well.  Statistics coming soon
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« Reply #66 on: July 29, 2004, 02:58:46 PM »
« Edited: July 31, 2004, 03:57:02 PM by Senator Harry »

Here's some statistics

State   Entry   Capital   1991 EV[/u]
Tokyo   1990   Tokyo   91
Congo   1989   Leopoldville   83
West Java   1981   Jakarta   81
South Korea   1982   Seoul   70
Nigeria   1991   Abuja   68
Luzon   1983   Manila   67
Liaoning   1985   Shenyang   66
Rockefeller   1989   Addis Ababa   62
Dhaka    1990   Dhaka    62
Sudan   1989   Khartoum   60
Lagos   1991   Lagos   59
South Vietnam   1975   Saigon   58
Kyoto   1990   Kyoto   57
North Vietnam   1975   Hanoi   57
Tanzania   1987   Dar es Salaam   56
East Java   1981   Surabaya   55
Heilongjiang   1985   Harbin   55
Central Java   1981   Semarag   54
California   1850   Sacremento   50
Rajshahi    1990   Rajshahi    50
Orange   1971   Pretoria   49
Morocco   1991   Rabat   47
Algeria   1991   Algeirs   46
Jilin   1985   Changchun   46
Bahia   1974   Recife   46
North Brazil   1974   Belem   44
Sumatra   1978   Palembang   44
Kenya   1989   Nairobi   44
North Italy   1976   Milan   43
Sapporo   1990   Sapporo   42
Rhineland   1967   Frankfurt   41
Chittagong    1990   Chittagong    40
Uganda   1989   Kampala   39
Egypt   1989   Cairo   37
Venezuela   1962   Caracas   37
North Korea   1982   Pyongyang   36
New York   1788   Albany   35
Alexandria   1989   Alexandria   34
Ethiopia   1989   Mekele   32
Romania   1990   Bucharest   32
Texas   1845   Austin   31
Ghana   1969   Accra   31
Anglia   1935   London   29
Mindanao   1984   Davao   29
Mozambique   1984   Maputo   29
France   1935   Paris   28
Brandenburg   1967   Berlin   28
Sinai   1989   At-Tur   27
Tyrrhenia   1976   Naples   26
Taiwan   1970   Taipei   26
Visayas   1983   Cebu   26
Aceh   1978   Medan   26
Malaya   1990   Singapore   26
Celebes   1980   Ujungpandang   25
Westphalia   1967   Dusseldorf   25
Cameroon   1989   Yaoundé   25
Aquitaine   1935   Bordeaux   24
Ohio   1803   Columbus   24
Khulna    1990   Khulna    24
Madagascar   1987   Antananarivo   24
Pennsylvania   1787   Harrisburg   23
Castille   1935   Madrid   22
Ivory Coast   1973   Yamoussoukro   22
Florida   1845   Talahassee   22
Mexico    1885   Mexico City   21
Cambodia   1975   Phnom Penh   21
Illinois   1818   Springfield   21
Burkina Faso   1991   Ouagadougou   21
Timor   1980   Kupang   20
Virginia   1788   Richmond   20
Michigan   1837   Lansing   20
Zimbabwe   1986   Harare   20
Burgundy   1935   Marseille   19
Colombia   1926   Bogota   19
Malawi   1986   Lilongwe   19
Borneo   1979   Palangkaraya   19
South Africa   1966   Cape Town   18
Mali   1991   Bamako   18
Guinea   1985   Conarky   18
Portugal   1941   Lisbon   17
Niger   1991   Niamey   17
Senegambia   1973   Dakar   17
Hungary   1990   Budapest   16
Czech   1990   Prague   16
New Guinea   1979   Port Moresby   16
Zambia   1986   Lusaka   16
Tunisia   1991   Tunis   16
Munich   1990   Munich   16
Cordoba   1935   Valencia   15
New South Wales   1949   Sydney   15
Meta   1962   Meta   15
New Jersey   1787   Trenton   15
Chad   1989   N'Djamena   15
Serbia   1990   Belgrade   14
Barisal    1990   Barisal    14
Quebec   1968   Quebec   14
Massachusetts   1788   Boston   13
Austria   1990   Vienna   13
North Carolina   1789   Raliegh   13
Sylhet    1990   Sylhet    13
Roma   1976   Rome   13
Norway   1943   Oslo   13
Indiana   1816   Indianapolis   13
Ireland   1943   Dublin   13
Northumbria   1935   Manchester   13
Georgia   1788   Atlanta   12
Somalia   1989   Mogadishu   12
Honduras   1875   Tegucigalpa   12
Mercia   1935   Birmingham   12
Rwanda   1989   Kigali   12
Laos   1975   Vientaine   12
Missouri   1821   Jefferson City   11
Nicaragua   1856   Walker   11
Outer Manchuria   1986   Hohhot   11
Victoria   1949   Melbourne   11
Eritrea   1989   Asmera   11
Leon   1935   Bilbao   11
Benin   1991   Porto Novo   11
Sweden   1946   Stockholm   11
Wessex   1935   Plymouth   11
Kentucky   1792   Frankfurt   10
Tennessee   1796   Nashville   10
Libya   1991   Tripoli   10
Panama   1859   Panama City   10
Wisconsin   1848   Madison   10
Minnesota   1859   St. Paul   10
Ontario   1854   Toronto   10
Washington    1884   Olympia   10
Aragon   1935   Barcelona   10
Finland   1990   Helsinki   9
Cuba   1850   Santiago   9
Slovakia   1990   Bratislava   9
Angola   1969   Luanda   9
Alabama   1819   Montgomery   9
Louisiana   1812   Baton Rouge   9
Burundi   1989   Bujumbura   9
Scotland   1935   Edinburgh   8
Liberia   1914   Monrovia   8
Connecticut   1788   Hartford   8
Colorado   1876   Denver   8
Hamilton   1897   Acapulco   8
Croatia   1990   Zagreb   8
Maryland   1788   Annapolis   8
Denmark   1946   Copenhagen   8
Costa Rica   1859   San Jose   8
South Carolina   1788   Columbia   8
Iowa   1846   Des Moines   7
Yucatan    1884   Merida   7
Veracruz    1885   Veracruz    7
Franklin   1897   Tampico   7
Albania   1990   Tirane   7
Mississippi   1817   Jackson   7
Queensland   1919   Brisbane   7
Kansas   1862   Topeka   7
Siberia   1951   Safe Haven   7
Oklahoma   1907   Oklahoma City   7
Santo Domingo   1862   Santo Domingo   7
Pendleton   1951   Vladivostok   7
Bosnia-Herzegovina   1990   Sarajevo   7
Arizona   1913   Phoenix   7
Havana   1856   Havana   7
Jefferson   1897   Guadalajara   7
Guatemala   1884   Guatemala City   7
British Columbia   1877   Vancouver   6
Belgium   1945   Brussels   6
Arkansas   1836   Little Rock   6
Netherlands   1945   Amsterdam   6
Mauritania   1991   Nouakchott   6
Kamchatka   1951   East Seward   6
Madison   1897   Culiacan   6
Gabon   1977   Libreville   6
Central Africa   1989   Bangui   6
Alberta    1889   Edmonton   6
Western Australia   1949   Perth   6
Oregon   1859   Salem   6
Haiti   1862   Port-au-Prince   6
Chiapas    1885   Tuxtla Gutiérrez   6
Puerto Rico   1901   San Juan   5
Jamaica   1901   Kingston   5
Wales   1935   Cardiff   5
Nevada   1862   Carson City   5
Mediterranea   1976   Sassari   5
Durango    1884   Saltillo   5
Slovenia   1990   Ljubljana   5
Southern Australia   1949   Adelaide   5
Manitoba   1877   Winnipeg   5
Namibia   1977   Windhoek   5
Polk   1854   Chihuahua   5
Macedonia   1990   Skopje   5
Sabah   1972   Kota Kinabalu   5
Nebraska   1875   Douglas   5
New Mexico   1913   Santa Fe   5
Nova Scotia   1856   Halifax   4
Saskatchewan    1889   Regina   4
New Hampshire   1788   Concord   4
Rhode Island   1790   Providence   4
Montenegro   1990   Kotor   4
Utah   1895   Salt Lake City   4
East Pacifica   1990   Suva   4
Belvin   1962   Tulsa   4
Idaho    1884   Clark   4
West Pacifica   1990   Honaria   4
Hawaii   1971   Honolulu   4
Sarawak   1972   Sibu   4
Greeley   1875   Hermosillo   4
New Zealand   1919   Wellington   4
Maine   1820   Augusta   4
New Brunswick   1856   Fredericton   4
Baja   1875   Mexicali   4
Suriname   1968   Paramaribo   3
Montana    1884   Helena   3
North Dakota    1884   Bismarck   3
Guyana   1962   Georgetown   3
Lesser Antilles   1964   Johnson   3
Tasmania   1926   Hobart   3
El Salvador   1883   San Salvador   3
Luxembourg   1946   Luxembourg   3
South Dakota    1884   Pierre   3
Pierce   1883   Thunder Bay   3
Newfoundland   1941   St. John's   3
Alaska   1962   Anchorage   3
Iceland   1990   Reyjavik   3
Bahamas   1964   Dallas   3
Keewatin   1926   Kangiqcliniq   3
Belize   1964   Belize   3
Delaware   1787   Dover   3
Vermont   1791   Montpelier   3
Wyoming    1884   Cheyenne   3
French Guiana   1970   Cayenne   3
District of Columbia      Washington   1
District of Northern Australia      Darwin   1
District of Northern Canada      Yellowknife   1
District of Greenland      Nuuk   1
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« Reply #67 on: July 30, 2004, 01:02:43 PM »

"Nebraska 1874 Douglas 5"

Oh sure, give me the name of a president nobody knows about.

How about Omaha as the capital?  It's only the biggest city on Nebraska.
I assume it's the same city as Lincoln, yet named after the guy from IL who became president.
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« Reply #68 on: July 30, 2004, 03:01:56 PM »

"Nebraska 1874 Douglas 5"

Oh sure, give me the name of a president nobody knows about.

How about Omaha as the capital?  It's only the biggest city on Nebraska.
I assume it's the same city as Lincoln, yet named after the guy from IL who became president.

Omaha?  No.  It's the biggest city in Nebraska and was its territorial capital and named after the Omaha Indians.

No. . .Douglas in this TL is the same as Lincoln in OTL
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« Reply #69 on: July 31, 2004, 03:29:29 PM »
« Edited: August 01, 2004, 03:17:07 PM by Senator Harry »

sites of the Olympics:

Summer   
1896   Athens, Greece
1900   Paris, France
1904   St. Louis, USA
1908   London, UK
1916   Berlin, Germany
1920   Antwerp, Belgium
1924   Stockholm, Sweden
1928   Amsterdam, Netherlands
1932   Los Angeles, USA
1936   Paris, USA
1948   New York City, USA
1952   Helsinki, Finland
1956   Melbourne, USA
1962   Rome, Italy
1966   Buenos Aries, Argentina
1970   Mexico City, USA
1974   Hamilton, Atlantica
1978   Montreal, USA
1982   Moscow, USSR
1991   Lagos, USA
1995   scheduled for St. Petersburg, USSR
1999   scheduled for Athens, Greece

The summer games began in 1896 in Athens.  They were cancelled in 1912 due to WWI but resumed in 1916.  They were cancelled in 1940 and 1944 due to WWII but resumed in 1948--in New York, as a statement to the world that the games would never be permenantly cancelled.  They were cancelled in 1960 due to WWII, but were held following the conclusion in 1962, beginning a new cycle.  They were cancelled in 1990 due to WWIV, but once peace resumed, they were held in late 1991, beginning yet a new cycle.  By the 1950's, the USA started winning everything, so the US now has five teams competiting the the Olympics:  USA-Africa, USA-Europe, USA-North America, USA-Latin America, and USA-Australiasia.

Winter   
1924   Chamonix, France (occupied by USA)
1928   St. Mortiz, Switzerland
1932   Lake Placid, USA
1936   Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany
1948   St. Mortiz, Switzerland
1952   Oslo, USA
1956   Cortina d'Ampezzo, Italy
1962   Innsbruck, Austria
1966   Grenoble, USA
1970   Sapporo, Japan
1974   Denver, USA
1978   Punta Arenas, Argentina
1982   Lake Placid, USA
1991   Archangel, USSR
1993   scheduled for East Seward, USA
1997   scheduled for Nagano, USA
2001   scheduled for Bern, Switzerland

The Winter Olympics began in 1924 in Chamonix, part of France under US control.  They were cancelled and resumed at the same times of the Summer Olympics.  The IOC decided to start holding the winter games two years apart from the summer games, so Winter Olympics were held in both 1991 and 1993, beginning the new cycle.
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« Reply #70 on: August 01, 2004, 03:17:18 PM »

There is absolutely no way in any conceiveable timeline that Washington, DC could play host to the Olympics.  New York would be a good candidate for the 1948 games, but not Wasington.  Washington was, is, and always will be a one company town and that company doesn't need to host the Games to promote its business.  The US is one of a handful of nations whose political capital is not also its financial capital and the Summer Olymics have always been held in cities with some degree of economic importance in their host country.
good point
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« Reply #71 on: September 07, 2004, 08:21:22 PM »

so do yall want me to start making ERA TWO?
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« Reply #72 on: September 25, 2004, 09:37:07 AM »
« Edited: October 02, 2004, 11:45:01 PM by Senator Harry »

Hey...I'm working on Era Two now!
Here's a vague preview, and we'll see if yall can guess it before I post!:
**A man comes out of nowhere to rise to the presidency.
**A vice president goes down in scandal.
**Someone lands on the moon.
**Seven new states before 2000!

check out Era TWO
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?board=15;action=display;threadid=9142
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