The Official Star Trek Thread

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As long as it's in the Prime Universe and the Abramsverse is shut down permanently, sounds good.

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A. Absolutely loved it.

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Please don't put the "fate of the galaxy" at stake again. I don't know why recent Star Trek has to focus so large.

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The worst part of Voyager was how the crews integrated so seamlessly and so quickly. The Starfleet vs. Maquis conflict should have been a major plot thread for years, even if just bubbling under everything. There's no way the two crews would have been fine with working together like that with basically no ill will.

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Yes, I'm late to the party on this. Star Trek Continues is a fan-made Star Trek series on YouTube that ran from 2013 through 2017.

I'd heard about it a bit over the years, but never bothered to watch it, assuming (reasonably, I think) that it couldn't possibly be all that good, since it's entirely non-profit, everyone on it works for free, and it is like a "season 4" of TOS, but with unknown actors playing the roles of the characters we love. It's not officially sanctioned by Paramount, but they allowed it because no one was making any money off of it.

But, I decided to watch it all over the last few weeks, and ... wow, I was waaaay wrong. This show is fantastic! It's not just filmed "fan fiction," it's that the 11 episodes actually have the feel of TOS episodes. I had previously watched another fan film series on YouTube (Phase II/New Voyages), and that one was watchable but never felt like "lost episodes" of TOS. Continues really does feel that way.

If I were going to rank the top 10 episodes of Star Trek released since Enterprise went off the air, at least 8 of them are probably from Continues. No exaggeration. If you love TOS, you'll love Continues. If you don't love Discovery or Picard because they don't remind you of classic Trek, Continues may be for you.

If you haven't seen it, here's the official YouTube link:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhvh2eq-XLgqNxH6npvQxGxLCUHy90IpZ



note to mods - can we merge every Star Trek thread into a single huge Star Trek megathread?

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I'm just going to treat this as a Star Trek megathread going forward. Mods, please merge in all previous Star Trek threads if possible.

When I watched Picard back when it was new, I liked it fine, but it was kinda tedious to watch it over the course of 10 weeks. I just binged through it over a couple weeks, and I thought it was a lot better that way, since it's so heavily serialized.

None of the episodes really stand out (other than Nepenthe), and I don't think any of them would make by top 100 list for Star Trek overall, but I think it holds up better that way. Anyone who likes TNG should watch it.

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On the other hand, I'm not sure if Discovery is salvageable, and I think the best plan is probably to cancel it, officially state that it takes place in an alternate universe, and just not talk about it anymore.

It's not that I hated every minute of it, but I just don't think it really "fits" into the Star Trek universe. I have such high hopes for Strange New Worlds, but I'm also really afraid it will suffer from the same issues.

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I've asked the mods to merge all other Star Trek threads into this one so we can consolidate onto a single thread rather than spread a little here and there.

In the meantime, I'll consider this to be the Star Trek megathread and only post about it here.

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I am getting pretty excited about Strange New Worlds.

I was kinda skeptical about making a younger Uhura a character, but I'm warming up to the idea.

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Similarly, making a younger Chapel a regular character is risky (and kinda funny because Number One, also originally played by Majel Barrett, is also on the show). I hope they don't depart too much from the original character.

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M'Benga! He was in a couple episodes of TOS as a second doctor, so I guess he gets replaced by McCoy later on but fills in a bit.

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An Aenar character played by an actor who is blind in real life. I really like him from the trailer at least.

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I'm most skeptical about this one. Is she an Augment? Some kind of relative of Khan? Is this really necessary?

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I love Anson Mount as Pike, but I am not sure about this plotline about how Pike "knows his fate" and can't handle it. I don't know, I just didn't like that episode of Discovery (although the scene was fantastic).

But maybe it will help fill in why Spock was so devoted to Pike in "The Menagerie," going to far as to commit mutiny and grand theft starship.

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Just like in season 1, after a strong start, season 2 of Picard has been a disappointment. Still better than Discovery though.

Tomorrow is the Strange New Worlds premiere, and I'm really nervous about it.

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Agreed, episode 1 was good!

On the other hand, the season of Picard that just ended was so-so. It had its moments, but if I were ranking the now 34 complete seasons of live action Star Trek, it's probably no higher than 29th, ahead of season 1 of Picard, seasons 1, 3, and 4 of Discovery, and season 1 of TNG.

I should probably do a deeper analysis than just ranking off the cuff like that.

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Well, season 1 of Strange New Worlds was fantastic, especially the finale.

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Here's how I rank the 10 episodes, at least as of right now, looking back:

1. A Quality of Mercy
2. Spock Amok
3. Memento Mori
4. Strange New Worlds
5. Lift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reach
6. All Those Who Wander
7. Ghosts of Illyria
8. The Serene Squall
9. Children of the Comet
10. The Elysian Kingdom

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Picard season 3 starts airing next week. After season 1 was disappointing and season 2 was just bad, I can't say I'm optimistic, but apparently the early reviews are pretty good. (Did we hear that last year too?)

If the entire TNG cast was willing to return, they should have just done that from the beginning.



ETA...I said this last year but I'm not sure why I thought that...

On the other hand, the season of Picard that just ended was so-so. It had its moments, but if I were ranking the now 34 complete seasons of live action Star Trek, it's probably no higher than 29th, ahead of season 1 of Picard, seasons 1, 3, and 4 of Discovery, and season 1 of TNG.

And for that matter I don't think it was better than season 1 of Discovery either, and ... maybe not season 1 of TNG?

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I've enjoyed the first two episodes, but this level of serialization makes the overall story run so slow. It may be too much to wish for the old 26-episode seasons (where they actually managed to truly flesh out the main characters and even some of the of the recurring), but even something in the high teens to 20 would be quite nice.

Yeah, the creators of modern Star Trek generally don't know and don't care what the fans actually want, Strange New Worlds being a begrudging exception from them.

Picard season 1 was better on rewatch when I binged it. I haven't rewatched season 2 and I think it would still be pretty bad, but probably better on a binge. If they insist on super serialization like this (way more than DS9 or Enterprise season 3 ever did), they should at least release them all at once

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This season was pretty fun and a huge improvement over the first 2 seasons. If I were ranking all of the live action seasons 1-36, I'm sure it's in the top 30, though I doubt it cracks the top 20.

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=IQ51gV0t6yM

Paramount uploaded the entire first season of Strange New Worlds onto YouTube, so if you haven't seen it, check it out!

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PSA: They went ahead and released episode 7 (the Lower Decks crossover) yesterday, and will move up the release dates of 8 through 10 by one week.

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PSA: They went ahead and released episode 7 (the Lower Decks crossover) yesterday, and will move up the release dates of 8 through 10 by one week.

It was decent, but probably the weakest of the season so far. Unlike most of the fanbase, I'm neither hating or fanboying out right now.