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« on: December 15, 2010, 09:56:21 AM »

The millenials will have a "come to Jesus" moment. This generation does have a valuable conservative tendency. We are more anti-abortion than many think here. America is very due for another Christian "Great Awakening" . We may be at the beginning of the beginning with regards to the Awakening. Libertarianism is compatable with a massive revival.

O rly?

1) Real libertarians oppose big government forcing women to carry any pregnancy to term.

2) Read the Book of Luke. Jesus's teachings there, if translated into government policy, are downright social democrat (i.e. socialist, and surely as far from economic libertarianism as imaginable).
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2010, 12:19:51 PM »

There are taxes that Jesus would oppose quite emphatically. I will list just a few here:

Capital Gains (Luke 12:19-27)
Estate Taxes aka inheritance taxes (Ezra 9:12)
Marriage Taxes: Also he would allow any newly married solider a year off to bring joy to his wife
Progressive Income Tax (Exodus 30:11-15)

Jesus was huge on private actions of charity not government mandated ones
To quote a tea party activist "It is not the role of government to force us to be charitable. I think we have a name for that kind of mandate. It starts with an "s" and ends with an "ocialism"."


WOW! Just, WOW!

Here's the portion of Luke you cited, along with the rest of the relevant parables from those sections:

The Parable of the Rich Fool
 13 Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”
 14 Jesus replied, “Man, who appointed me a judge or an arbiter between you?” 15 Then he said to them, “Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions.”

 16 And he told them this parable: “The ground of a certain rich man yielded an abundant harvest. 17 He thought to himself, ‘What shall I do? I have no place to store my crops.’

   18 “Then he said, ‘This is what I’ll do. I will tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I will store my surplus grain. 19 And I’ll say to myself, “You have plenty of grain laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry.”’

   20 “But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself?’

   21 “This is how it will be with whoever stores up things for themselves but is not rich toward God.”

Do Not Worry
 22 Then Jesus said to his disciples: “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; or about your body, what you will wear. 23 For life is more than food, and the body more than clothes. 24 Consider the ravens: They do not sow or reap, they have no storeroom or barn; yet God feeds them. And how much more valuable you are than birds! 25 Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to your life? 26 Since you cannot do this very little thing, why do you worry about the rest?
   27 “Consider how the wild flowers grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you, not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 28 If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today, and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, how much more will he clothe you—you of little faith! 29 And do not set your heart on what you will eat or drink; do not worry about it. 30 For the pagan world runs after all such things, and your Father knows that you need them. 31 But seek his kingdom, and these things will be given to you as well.

   32 “Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom. 33 Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. 34 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.


How ANYONE can get from that--even from the selected portions you cited--that "Jesus supports capital gains tax cuts" is downright point and laugh out loud foolish. The verses don't even say anything about taxes! Though they do say quite a lot about disdaining greed and hoarding possessions, and teaches giving one's wealth freely to the poor....
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2010, 05:19:51 PM »
« Edited: December 17, 2010, 05:23:33 PM by Badger »

Even though almost all scientific minds for the last 100 years were Darwinists.

For that matter, today most Darwinists are religious. There's nothing contradicting belief in God and belief in evolution. Even the Catholic Church has long accepted this.

Give it up, dude. You truly are imprinting your own ultra-conservative social and political views over the Bible, and are engaging in some rather creative cut and pasting in order to reconcile the two.
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 02:01:00 PM »


No, New Libertas. I was agreeing with you. Wink
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