Why do liberals want masks and restrictions forever?

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Because we hate freedom. (shrugs)

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And the idea that lockdowns are authoritarian is laughable

If placing entire countries or states on house arrest isn't authoritarian, what is?

That....didn't happen?

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And the idea that lockdowns are authoritarian is laughable

If placing entire countries or states on house arrest isn't authoritarian, what is?

That....didn't happen?

It's actually amazing that people on different sides of the aisle live in completely alternative realities.  I can't even grasp at this take. Like.... were you watching the news the past 18 months? It wasn't so bad in America outside places like New York City but there were many countries that did completely shut down (Spain, France, UK, Australia, etc)

What's even weirder here is that on just about every other issue band it is very much on "this" (my) side of the aisle.

He is one of those far left likely voted Green types whose anti-vaxxer ism is an example of horseshoe Theory

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And the idea that lockdowns are authoritarian is laughable

If placing entire countries or states on house arrest isn't authoritarian, what is?

That....didn't happen?

It's actually amazing that people on different sides of the aisle live in completely alternative realities.  I can't even grasp at this take. Like.... were you watching the news the past 18 months? It wasn't so bad in America outside places like New York City but there were many countries that did completely shut down (Spain, France, UK, Australia, etc)

Indeed, except we're in reality and you're the one with the alternative reality. Sean Spicer might blush at the alternative facts you're trying to peddle now. In the USA the shelter-in-place orders were not enforced at all. Where were the police patrolling the streets telling people to go home? Oh right, this didn't happen whatsoever anywhere. Businesses were shut down, yes, but in many states a substantial fraction of businesses were able to be classified as essential businesses and continue to run.

In any case, the shelter-in-place orders and business shutdowns all ended by July 2020. So for the last year, while the pandemic continued to rage out of control, there has been no shutdown anywhere in the USA. You're truly blind and delusional if you think that some capacity restrictions and mask mandates could be called "placing entire countries or states on house arrest".

So the small share of deemed essential businesses Placer the presence of BLM protests I can I have many of the ladder you will see from just about every video actually actively engaged mask-wearing and to a lesser degree social distancing when possible - - compared to the overall share of the US economy that was shut down? You probably couldn't measure the former as a double-digit percentage of the American economy and the latter compared to the number of trips the average American took to the mall or some other store on a typical free covid-19 doesn't even measure more than a literal fraction of a percent.

In short this hypothesis is Ill-founded

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I don't know how many different ways sane people will have to spell it out for you before it finally sinks in (if ever), but: Masks save lives.

A far more effective way of "saving lives" is ordering items online, which I would wager that the great majority of those wearing masks in grocery stores have the capacity and time to do.

Agreed. But for those who do need to go to the grocery store, for whatever reason, masks are a must. Of course, online shopping is the safest option, but it can't always be utilized, and that's when masks are necessary.

More than 80% of people in  my liberal Portland suburb dont wear masks anymore in stores

     Noticed this walking down the street in Berkeley today; half of the people aren't wearing masks. Opposition to masking is spreading beyond the conservatives who objected last year, and lockdowns will become less and less effective the longer this goes on.

The reason, guys, is that such people in your areas have overwhelmingly vaccinated.