AOC says migrants forced to drink toilet water after tense border visit

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Is ever so telling that conservatives primary defense of this is arguing over semantics whether these camps are concentration camps like Auschwitz as opposed to merely internment camps like we locked Japanese people in the 1940s. Raw disgust is my only reaction here.

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Apparently someone else experienced different conditions: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/immigration-border-facility-aoc-hispanic

“We found no soiled diapers, no deplorable conditions and no lack of basic necessities,” Rodriguez remarked, adding he specifically asked border agents if they staged the facility in response to the negative press. “They unequivocally denied it — we were witnessing the identical conditions the attorneys saw when they toured the facility days earlier."

In fact, some told him the sources from whom the negative coverage originated “never toured the areas of the facility that we toured” and speculated they might have had political motivations.

Fox News called up the facility: "Hey guys, can we send some blindly faithful Republican pastors to you in a day or two to say the Democrats are liars, and can you clean the place up real good between now and then? We can own the libs while you get the media off your back. Win win."

All the liberal representatives from the first trip collectively lied as a political conspiracy? Some of these women are Bernie progressives, not Republican swamp monsters. They actually have integrity. This conspiracy theory is laughable and sad.

Nowhere does it say that they are Republicans. Also this is a pastor who's battled with Trump over immigration. He also advised Obama on immigration reform.

“I read the reports, saw the news clips. I just wanted to see what was actually happening in order to better enable our efforts to find a fair and a just solution to our broken immigration system," Rodriguez, who has advised President Trump and both Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush on immigration reform, noted. “To my surprise, I saw something drastically different from the stories I’ve been hearing in our national discourse. Even as a veteran of immigration advocacy in the U.S., I was shocked at the misinformation of the crisis at the border."

The pastors left encouraged by the commitment and dedication of America’s Border Patrol and immigration officers, “many of which are Latinos, by the way.” He said one emotional Border Patrol agent turned to him and said, referring to the vilification: “Pastor Sam, what they’re saying about us is completely false. We care about these kids and have a passion for our calling.”

Pastor Carlos Moran, NHCLC board member and immigrant, said, “we, as evangelical leaders that serve in different segments, are very committed to helping children regardless of their status and we commend those officers that are trying their very best to serve and fulfill their duty at the border. However, we do call on our political leaders to set aside their personal agendas and begin focusing on resolving this immigration crisis.”

“What's heart-wrenching is that we have both Republicans and Democrats alike in Congress, who can't come together for the purpose of doing the right thing and finding a solution to our immigration crisis,” he said. “Please, President Trump, please White House, work with the Republicans and the Democrats [and] please, please, please, please, Nancy Pelosi, Kevin McCarthy, Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, please come together to solve this crisis, immediately.”

Also it's hilarious that you think any current politician has integrity.

Even Fox News, deep deep buried past its bylines, advise that these pastors were advisers to former President W bush and to president Trump.

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A group of people are being concentrated in a camp. They're concentration camps.

Since every camp is a concentration of people, all camps are concentration camps. Don't send your kids to summer concentration camp!

The key distinction is one is voluntary and the other is not. Don't be an idiot.

Yes, holding camps for illegal migrants are 100% voluntary. They chose to invade the United States and risk being detained in one.

The ones who came to the border seeking asylum are not illegal migrants.

The ones there who are asylum seekers are people whose claims for asylum that have been found not legitimate, yet they refused to leave the United States.

That's fake news, Fuzzy. Citation needed.

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A group of people are being concentrated in a camp. They're concentration camps.

Since every camp is a concentration of people, all camps are concentration camps. Don't send your kids to summer concentration camp!

The key distinction is one is voluntary and the other is not. Don't be an idiot.

Yes, holding camps for illegal migrants are 100% voluntary. They chose to invade the United States and risk being detained in one.

The ones who came to the border seeking asylum are not illegal migrants.

The ones there who are asylum seekers are people whose claims for asylum that have been found not legitimate, yet they refused to leave the United States.

That's fake news, Fuzzy. Citation needed.

Because your prior citation from a right-wing anti-immigration groups sucked. And in terms of some people not showing up for court, we are talking about less than 1 and 100 under Obama era Administration practice

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When people break out the cherry picked Bible quotes to go after Fuzzy...

WTF?

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Pretending not to know that there are racist immigration hardliners in this administration, and that we all know who they are, would be maddening if it wasn’t just so boring.

That's a very clever way of not being on the record and thus protect your half-formed hypothesis from scrutiny.

What's maddening is people intent on ignoring all complexity as to the source of a problem and its solution due to their TDS.

What's maddening is you are implacable contrarian syndrome. As if you need to be convinced when Trump explicitly says that he wants the conditions in the camp to be a lesson for potential asylum-seekers thinking about coming to America, and your response is along the lines of, oh yeah? Well prove that he really honestly minute! Checkmate, libtards.

And then when people look at you with astonishment in response? Trump derangement syndrome! Double checkmate libtards!

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Pretending not to know that there are racist immigration hardliners in this administration, and that we all know who they are, would be maddening if it wasn’t just so boring.

That's a very clever way of not being on the record and thus protect your half-formed hypothesis from scrutiny.

What's maddening is people intent on ignoring all complexity as to the source of a problem and its solution due to their TDS.

What's maddening is you are implacable contrarian syndrome. As if you need to be convinced when Trump explicitly says that he wants the conditions in the camp to be a lesson for potential asylum-seekers thinking about coming to America, and your response is along the lines of, oh yeah? Well prove that he really honestly minute! Checkmate, libtards.

And then when people look at you with astonishment in response? Trump derangement syndrome! Double checkmate libtards!

I like Drunk Badger.

Was Stone Cold Sober, as I am now, but thanks anyway.

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NBC: Migrant kids in overcrowded Arizona border station allege sex assault, retaliation from U.S. agents

WASHINGTON — The poor treatment of migrant children at the hands of U.S. border agents in recent months extends beyond Texas to include allegations of sexual assault and retaliation for protests, according to dozens of accounts by children held in Arizona collected by government case managers and obtained by NBC News.

A 16-year-old Guatemalan boy held in Yuma, Arizona, said he and others in his cell complained about the taste of the water and food they were given. The Customs and Border Protection agents took the mats out of their cell in retaliation, forcing them to sleep on hard concrete.

A 15-year-old girl from Honduras described a large, bearded officer putting his hands inside her bra, pulling down her underwear and groping her as part of what was meant to be a routine pat down in front of other immigrants and officers.

The girl said "she felt embarrassed as the officer was speaking in English to other officers and laughing" during the entire process, according to a report of her account.

A 17-year-old boy from Honduras said officers would scold detained children when they would get close to a window, and would sometimes call them "puto," an offensive term in Spanish, while they were giving orders.

Trump's America in all of it's "glory".

All part of the plan, don'tcha know?  

There is a special place in hell for those Trumpsters who enabled this -and they are already more than half-way there.  No amount of projection, victim-blaming, and deflection will protect them.