Amy Klobuchar 2020 campaign megathread

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So after pinning all her hopes on Iowa, and coming a measly 5th place, maybe fourth if she's lucky, when does she drop out? I guess she could Coast on life support through New Hampshire, but at this point why do so?

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So after pinning all her hopes on Iowa, and coming a measly 5th place, maybe fourth if she's lucky, when does she drop out? I guess she could Coast on life support through New Hampshire, but at this point why do so?

Drop out and endorse Warren??? I could see it happening, but probably Pete.

Well, whomever she endorses is still up for grabs. But I can't see her continuing on. The biggest question in my mind right now is like I said whether or not she coasts through New Hampshire praying for a miracle that ain't coming.

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Looks like Amy picked up an endorsement from Joe Sestak!
https://blog.4president.org/2020/2020/02/former-congressman-and-presidential-candidate-admiral-joe-sestak-endorses-senator-amy-klobuchar.html

Two people notoriously awful towards their staffs.

That said, I believe I'm now on the Amy train

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Anecdotally, I've heard Amy has a weak ground game in NV, while Buttigieg has a stronger one there.

To be fair, and I say this as a Amy fan, she presumably has a weak ground game everywhere. She's still in the race because her campaign has proved itself to be a diligent steward of resources; some of how they've been able to do that is must be by not stretching themselves in too many directions. We're going to get a sudden test of what happens when your campaign is given an infusion of cash and attention but very little time to deploy it. How are they going to use their money? I would expect a surprising amount of money will go into ads; there's simply not enough time to hire people who will know anything useful about the state of Nevada at this point.

Depending on your definition of ground game, she had a very strong one in IA though it ended up not helping her much. She was the only candidate to have visited all 99 counties. And being from a neighboring state, she probably had plenty of staffers who knew lots about IA, especially the northern third.

Of course. Sorry; I should've specified "everywhere that isn't IA/NH". Like, she did have a good ground game in IA, and apparently enough of one in NH to capitalize on her blip. But I doubt she had much resources to invest elsewhere.

She won almost every Newspaper endorsement in NH which does show she had a strong ground game.

Having a ground game and getting newspaper endorsements are literally Polar Opposites in terms of Grassroots political organization.

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if she does poorly in nevada (i.e. no delegates) she should probably drop out, or else she actually ironically hurts the chances of a moderate winning the nomination

Given Warren and Biden are toast, I submit that buttigieg is simply not electable, why should she be the one to drop out are you saying we should rally around Bloomberg?

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if she does poorly in nevada (i.e. no delegates) she should probably drop out, or else she actually ironically hurts the chances of a moderate winning the nomination

Given Warren and Biden are toast, I submit that buttigieg is simply not electable, why should she be the one to drop out are you saying we should rally around Bloomberg?

i said if she does poorly in nevada. in that case her momentum is halted and staying in the race while having single digit support would just take away from the rest of the more viable moderates. she also has no minority support when we're already multiple states in. i'm simply saying that for the moderate wing of the party, it would be in their best interests to rally around a candidate before bernie starts running away with the nomination

My point Remains the Same even if she does poorly in Nevada. At that point Warren and Biden are toast more than ever, buttigieg still remains unelectable in November, and that leaves us by my count.... Bloomberg?

So my question Remains the Same.

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if she does poorly in nevada (i.e. no delegates) she should probably drop out, or else she actually ironically hurts the chances of a moderate winning the nomination

Given Warren and Biden are toast, I submit that buttigieg is simply not electable, why should she be the one to drop out are you saying we should rally around Bloomberg?

i said if she does poorly in nevada. in that case her momentum is halted and staying in the race while having single digit support would just take away from the rest of the more viable moderates. she also has no minority support when we're already multiple states in. i'm simply saying that for the moderate wing of the party, it would be in their best interests to rally around a candidate before bernie starts running away with the nomination

My point Remains the Same even if she does poorly in Nevada. At that point Warren and Biden are toast more than ever, buttigieg still remains unelectable in November, and that leaves us by my count.... Bloomberg?

So my question Remains the Same.

I prefer Amy to Buttigieg in part because of her electability (and her experience and her platform), but I question where "unelectable" comes from in relation to Pete? Results suggest that he did pretty well both in the suburbs and Obama-Trump areas. The NH exit polls showed him with a pretty broad coalition across ages and education levels.

Among DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY VOTERS. Trying to translate search results into determining one's electability in November determines exactly zilch.

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if she does poorly in nevada (i.e. no delegates) she should probably drop out, or else she actually ironically hurts the chances of a moderate winning the nomination

Given Warren and Biden are toast, I submit that buttigieg is simply not electable, why should she be the one to drop out are you saying we should rally around Bloomberg?

i said if she does poorly in nevada. in that case her momentum is halted and staying in the race while having single digit support would just take away from the rest of the more viable moderates. she also has no minority support when we're already multiple states in. i'm simply saying that for the moderate wing of the party, it would be in their best interests to rally around a candidate before bernie starts running away with the nomination

My point Remains the Same even if she does poorly in Nevada. At that point Warren and Biden are toast more than ever, buttigieg still remains unelectable in November, and that leaves us by my count.... Bloomberg?

So my question Remains the Same.

I mean, I’d argue Pete’s the most electable candidate and Klobouchar’s electability is highly overrated at best, but here’s what I’ll say: Ohio votes after Super Tuesday, right?  Why not hold off making a decision between Pete and Klobouchar until after Super Tuesday?  If Pete can’t make inroads with Hispanics or African-Americans by then, he’s screwed anyway.  Klobuchar even more so because she lacks his national organization.  Why not see who is more viable after Super Tuesday?

because at that point it won't matter, nearly 40% of the country's delegates will have been awarded. bernie has effectively consolidated the progressive vote with warren's decline, while the moderate vote is all over the place. he's likely to win nevada, which could snowball into SC and absolutely into ST

Okay, but again, that fails to answer my question. At the risk of derailing this thread, who is this mythical moderate uniter candidate that Klobuchar should be withdrawing in favor of? Dead in the Water Biden or Warren? Unelectable Pete? Or the multi-billionaire who backed George W bush for president?

If, and I emphasize if, one accepts the theory that moderates should unite around a single candidate to stop Bernie, who is realistically better than Amy Klobuchar?

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Why is she still in this race? If she doesn't drop out after Super Tuesday she deserves a binder thrown at her.

She will, as will Warren. Buttigieg and Bloomberg, especially the latter, are question marks.

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Is she really thinking of dropping out? That could be interpreted as "you guys are amazing, let's see what happens next" more than "we're done, thanks everyone." The keyword is "we" in "we win big."

Good point. The subtext here is rather contradictory. Most of the text sounds more like a swan song rather than ramping her troops up for the next phase of battle, but you're right that line talks about the present tense rather than the past tense.

Speaking as someone who supported Klobuchar for a hot minute after New Hampshire, it's time for her to bow out and back Biden.