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Badger
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« on: September 13, 2013, 05:49:21 PM »

A continuation of Walker policies will make Wisconsin an unattractive place in which to teach. People with strong sentimental attachments to the communities in which they were brought up might return to teach for a pittance (as the Koch syndicate desires), but if one is on the margin between teaching in places similar in attractions, climate, etc. .... one might choose to sign a teaching contract in Minneapolis instead of Milwaukee or Evanston instead of Kenosha.

On the other side, good teachers have skill sets desirable for other activities. Selling used cars might be more lucrative than teaching, and having pay limited to cost of living increases (if that) ensures that one at best treads water. Teaching could also become a short-term career that one abandons to be a stay-at-home mother as was often the case in the 1950s.   

Good teachers are precious. To be sure there are awful teachers who belittle students, those who set very low expectations for students and get the predictable results, those who hold onto teaching jobs only because they have relatives on the school board, those who exploit students for their own questionable agendas, and those who have substance problems. For good reason bad teachers need to be removed from the profession, and those who have behavioral traits inconsistent with teaching (like a short fuse) must be kept out.

I have heard of a teacher who was caught 'reading' (and I deliberately understate what else he was doing) a pornographic magazine in a public school restroom and was fired for that. Drunk or on drugs? Get him out of the way!

 


This job should be about improving the quality of education and if its just about trying to impoverish rival special interests or simply to lower or maintain  state/property taxes, then this is basically defrauding the children.

Precisely. It's about cutting staff and pay -- and destroying the potential clout of unions who are sure to oppose Scott Walker and indirectly the Koch syndicate that wishes to treat states like colonies to be exploited for cheap labor. Ill-educated people are easy to exploit.

The connection between increasing education and partisan affiliation used to strongly favor Republicans. It now favors Democrats.  The Republican Party increasingly shows its anti-intellectual qualities, and those now hit people who never considered themselves part of the intellectual elite.   

Correction. It's about reversing massive increases in staff and pay and preventing the Wisconsin taxpayer from being ripped to shreds.

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Your own link shows Wisconson's expenditure per student only rose a whopping 9% over inflation during the entire decade of the 2000's, and only about 5% from 02 through 09.

You are again guilty of dishonesty and gross hyperbole.
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2013, 06:02:10 PM »

A continuation of Walker policies will make Wisconsin an unattractive place in which to teach. People with strong sentimental attachments to the communities in which they were brought up might return to teach for a pittance (as the Koch syndicate desires), but if one is on the margin between teaching in places similar in attractions, climate, etc. .... one might choose to sign a teaching contract in Minneapolis instead of Milwaukee or Evanston instead of Kenosha.

On the other side, good teachers have skill sets desirable for other activities. Selling used cars might be more lucrative than teaching, and having pay limited to cost of living increases (if that) ensures that one at best treads water. Teaching could also become a short-term career that one abandons to be a stay-at-home mother as was often the case in the 1950s.  

Good teachers are precious. To be sure there are awful teachers who belittle students, those who set very low expectations for students and get the predictable results, those who hold onto teaching jobs only because they have relatives on the school board, those who exploit students for their own questionable agendas, and those who have substance problems. For good reason bad teachers need to be removed from the profession, and those who have behavioral traits inconsistent with teaching (like a short fuse) must be kept out.

I have heard of a teacher who was caught 'reading' (and I deliberately understate what else he was doing) a pornographic magazine in a public school restroom and was fired for that. Drunk or on drugs? Get him out of the way!

  


This job should be about improving the quality of education and if its just about trying to impoverish rival special interests or simply to lower or maintain  state/property taxes, then this is basically defrauding the children.

Precisely. It's about cutting staff and pay -- and destroying the potential clout of unions who are sure to oppose Scott Walker and indirectly the Koch syndicate that wishes to treat states like colonies to be exploited for cheap labor. Ill-educated people are easy to exploit.

The connection between increasing education and partisan affiliation used to strongly favor Republicans. It now favors Democrats.  The Republican Party increasingly shows its anti-intellectual qualities, and those now hit people who never considered themselves part of the intellectual elite.  

Correction. It's about reversing massive increases in staff and pay and preventing the Wisconsin taxpayer from being ripped to shreds.

Link

Your own link shows Wisconson's expenditure per student only rose a whopping 9% over inflation during the entire decade of the 2000's, and only about 5% from 02 through 09.

You are again guilty of dishonesty and gross hyperbole.

How amusing for badger to intentionally omit the prior decades! Talk about dishonesty and gross hyperbole.

For the record, Scott Walker 'only' cut education spending at the state level by a mere 8%, not even inflation adjusted, which is of course quite consistent with rolling back the rampant onslaught on the taxpayers of Wisconsin.

If you really care about the increase in education spending during the 70's and 80's that much, I suggest running against Governor Tony Earl.
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Badger
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2013, 06:07:52 PM »

A continuation of Walker policies will make Wisconsin an unattractive place in which to teach. People with strong sentimental attachments to the communities in which they were brought up might return to teach for a pittance (as the Koch syndicate desires), but if one is on the margin between teaching in places similar in attractions, climate, etc. .... one might choose to sign a teaching contract in Minneapolis instead of Milwaukee or Evanston instead of Kenosha.

On the other side, good teachers have skill sets desirable for other activities. Selling used cars might be more lucrative than teaching, and having pay limited to cost of living increases (if that) ensures that one at best treads water. Teaching could also become a short-term career that one abandons to be a stay-at-home mother as was often the case in the 1950s.  

Good teachers are precious. To be sure there are awful teachers who belittle students, those who set very low expectations for students and get the predictable results, those who hold onto teaching jobs only because they have relatives on the school board, those who exploit students for their own questionable agendas, and those who have substance problems. For good reason bad teachers need to be removed from the profession, and those who have behavioral traits inconsistent with teaching (like a short fuse) must be kept out.

I have heard of a teacher who was caught 'reading' (and I deliberately understate what else he was doing) a pornographic magazine in a public school restroom and was fired for that. Drunk or on drugs? Get him out of the way!

  


This job should be about improving the quality of education and if its just about trying to impoverish rival special interests or simply to lower or maintain  state/property taxes, then this is basically defrauding the children.

Precisely. It's about cutting staff and pay -- and destroying the potential clout of unions who are sure to oppose Scott Walker and indirectly the Koch syndicate that wishes to treat states like colonies to be exploited for cheap labor. Ill-educated people are easy to exploit.

The connection between increasing education and partisan affiliation used to strongly favor Republicans. It now favors Democrats.  The Republican Party increasingly shows its anti-intellectual qualities, and those now hit people who never considered themselves part of the intellectual elite.  

Correction. It's about reversing massive increases in staff and pay and preventing the Wisconsin taxpayer from being ripped to shreds.

Link

Your own link shows Wisconson's expenditure per student only rose a whopping 9% over inflation during the entire decade of the 2000's, and only about 5% from 02 through 09.

You are again guilty of dishonesty and gross hyperbole.

How amusing for badger to intentionally omit the prior decades! Talk about dishonesty and gross hyperbole.

For the record, Scott Walker 'only' cut education spending at the state level by a mere 8%, not even inflation adjusted, which is of course quite consistent with rolling back the rampant onslaught on the taxpayers of Wisconsin.

Didn't list it because I don't care.

If you really care about the increase in education spending during the 70's and 80's that much, I suggest running against Governor Tony Earl.
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2013, 04:27:46 PM »

Krazen, not that I think any woman would have sex with you without using cash or roofies, but IF you ever reproduced (God forbid), would you want your child's public school's funding cut?

Or are you just assuming you'll have money to send any of your procreated seed to private schools, so you happily say "F$%k the world!!" to everyone else who doesn't?
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