MA: Abortion Reduction (Statute)

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Why hunting or fishing? What do they have to do with child rearing and why are we targeting hunting and fishing, specifically?

Agreed. I would like to see that clause removed, unless a good explanation is made.

This is taken from Mitch Daniels. I made the bill not just abortion, but what happens after which is cruicial. Unpaying dads shouldn't be allowed to go out to the casinos or spend time hunting and fishing with their buddies and leave the kid and a single mother on their own. Granted, this wouldn't be as effective as in the west, but I still think it's an incentive as well as a penalty to those who screw up not only the child's life, but the mother's.

Oh, I agree about casinos/gambling. But why hunting and fishing?

This is partly, of course, because if you go out to the casinos, that's purely recreational, but I can't say that about hunting or fishing.

And, of course, my other argument still stands. Why are we singling out these areas? Why should one's eligibility for a license involve something that has nothing to do with hunting or fishing?

Fishing and hunting in these days are mostly, unless you are part of a fishing/hunting business. The population that hunts and fish personally and every day in order to survive really doesn't exist anymore. If you would like, I suppose there could be an amendment addressing those that do...

Being a member of this region in RL, I know several people that heavily depend on hunting as their source of food. It is also a part of our economy, and in such trying times, I don't think it's the government's place to weaken the economy even more. While some may hunt and fish purely for recreation, it serves a larger purpose for many residents, including myself.

I disagree... I come from a big hunting state too, but there are cheaper ways for people to get food, and the majority of hunters aren't doing it for mainly food purposes.  I think this should stay.

I agree with your disagreement.

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We aren't destroying the industry. We're banning people from these activities when they have a child that is struggling to survive with a single mother. And as I stated, we aren't stopping hunting and fishing businesses from this, just parents who are abandoning their kid when they have a legal obligation they aren't fulfilling.

I agree with A-Bob, FWIW (twice in one day? ). Hunting and Fishing are licenses for activities the state directly controls, and along with drivers licenses and tax refunds are one of the ways to hit up a deadbeat dad directly. They may not be directly related to non-support of children per se, but they are unquestionably a reasonable and appropriate "carrot and stick" to enforce payment by deliquent parents.

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It looks like the Assembly is controlled by Compassionate Conservatives, or some variation there of, given the votes I've seen recently.

Well, at least conservatives anyway.

I totally forgot until now its too late: What about an amendment removing any extra prohibitions on adoption by otherwise qualified gay/lesbian families?

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My only thought is that he's saying he wants us to instruct adoption agencies that they are not to consider the sexuality of the adoptive family...?

If that is what we are talking about, it is still a good idea and I support it.

Well, I was assuming there may be many of the RL restirctions on gay adoption in the Mideast. If that is already the current state of regional law though....

Is it?

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My only thought is that he's saying he wants us to instruct adoption agencies that they are not to consider the sexuality of the adoptive family...?

If that is what we are talking about, it is still a good idea and I support it.

Well, I was assuming there may be many of the RL restirctions on gay adoption in the Mideast. If that is already the current state of regional law though....

Is it?

I'm not sure I followed your question...

Sorry, I'll rephrase:

"Is it?"


Just kidding. My question is: Has the Mideast (or federal) government previously removed legal restrictions on gay/lesbian couples adopting?

If that hasn't specifically been done, arguably any current RL legal restrictions still govern the region. Though obviously that may vary among the regions various states.

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D'OH!!