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All Along The Watchtower
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« on: May 15, 2024, 04:56:55 PM »

It's kind of ridiculous to me that an incumbent President running for reelection is focusing not on his term of office at all but instead his opponent that was President preceding him, but that seems to be the entire gameplan.

The incumbent President and his party (among many others) believe in their bones that his opponent and predecessor is an existential threat to American democracy who shouldn't even be eligible to run again.  After all, he interrupted the peaceful transfer of power in an attempted self-coup, culminating in his incitement of violence by his supporters  on members of Congress and his own Vice President. Of course that would be their focus!

Oh, and it goes without saying that this is personal for the incumbent President.
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All Along The Watchtower
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2024, 04:59:51 PM »

It's kind of ridiculous to me that an incumbent President running for reelection is focusing not on his term of office at all but instead his opponent that was President preceding him, but that seems to be the entire gameplan.

The incumbent President and his party (among many others) believe in their bones that his opponent and predecessor is an existential threat to American democracy who shouldn't even be eligible to run again. After all, he interrupted the peaceful transfer of power in an attempted self-coup, culminating in his incitement of violence by his supporters on members of Congress and his own Vice President. Of course that would be their focus.

That message is clearly not resonating with voters that were not already dyed-in-the-wool voting Democrat, whether the candidate be Donald Trump or Mitt Romney.

Then we have bigger problems.
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All Along The Watchtower
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2024, 05:05:36 PM »

It's kind of ridiculous to me that an incumbent President running for reelection is focusing not on his term of office at all but instead his opponent that was President preceding him, but that seems to be the entire gameplan.

The incumbent President and his party (among many others) believe in their bones that his opponent and predecessor is an existential threat to American democracy who shouldn't even be eligible to run again. After all, he interrupted the peaceful transfer of power in an attempted self-coup, culminating in his incitement of violence by his supporters on members of Congress and his own Vice President. Of course that would be their focus.

That message is clearly not resonating with voters that were not already dyed-in-the-wool voting Democrat, whether the candidate be Donald Trump or Mitt Romney.

Then we have bigger problems.

Tough sh*t Henry Clay.

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All Along The Watchtower
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2024, 05:13:23 PM »

It's kind of ridiculous to me that an incumbent President running for reelection is focusing not on his term of office at all but instead his opponent that was President preceding him, but that seems to be the entire gameplan.

The incumbent President and his party (among many others) believe in their bones that his opponent and predecessor is an existential threat to American democracy who shouldn't even be eligible to run again. After all, he interrupted the peaceful transfer of power in an attempted self-coup, culminating in his incitement of violence by his supporters on members of Congress and his own Vice President. Of course that would be their focus.

That message is clearly not resonating with voters that were not already dyed-in-the-wool voting Democrat, whether the candidate be Donald Trump or Mitt Romney.

Then we have bigger problems.

Tough sh*t Henry Clay.

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1832 election. You can't pick the issues that the electorate cares about, nor can you control their response.

Never claimed otherwise.
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All Along The Watchtower
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2024, 10:23:01 PM »

The calculus is different for Biden vs Trump.  Trump's operating assumption is that Biden is unfit for the office, so debating should expose that to voters. 

How is that different from Biden’s operating assumption?
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